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gupnut
10-12-03, 11:31 PM
I've given up on my GeForce 2 since it died and would like some sugestions on a new one to get. i play a decent amount of new games and and going to upgrade soon. what type of graphics card do you all think i should get, that doesn't cost too much in australian $$?

jAkUp
10-13-03, 12:41 AM
whats the rest of your system??

MUYA
10-13-03, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by gupnut
I've given up on my GeForce 2 since it died and would like some sugestions on a new one to get. i play a decent amount of new games and and going to upgrade soon. what type of graphics card do you all think i should get, that doesn't cost too much in australian $$?

Mate, as i mentioned/suggestion in another thread, invest! :) Well probably a 9800pro or something as its cheaper now as its around USD$350 or less? Its price has been bumped down due to the new 9800xt. If you invest a lil money, it should mena that slightly high end card will be allright for some times instead of you buying a mainstream cards and then upgrading again after a few months because as a gamer you find the performance levels not acceptable. It equates to the same price or there abouts? Thats why i have started buying not the real high end but, a 3d card that was high end just before the new high end card was launched, if that made sense. ie 1 $350 for the 9800pro or $300 for 9700 Pro and then getting 2 mainstream cards for $160etc type

Nvidia wise? maybe a get yourself a gf fx 5900 non ultra and o/c to fx 5900 ultra levels?

Just my thoughts

MUYA

Lfctony
10-13-03, 04:14 AM
If you are looking for a budget card, go for a 9600Pro, no questions asked. For higher end that doesn't cost too much, you could go for a Saphire 9800SE with a 256Bit bus and unlock the other 4 pipelines using SoftR9800, for improved performance.

Edge
10-13-03, 06:53 AM
High end ($200+ USD): 9700/9800 cards (NOT the 9800SE)
Medium end ($150-$200): 9500/9600pro (9600 non-pro is a bit slow)
Low end (under $100): Geforce FX5200 128 meg

That's what I'd reccomend. The FX5200 would probably do you fine until the next generation of cards where DX9 effects will be a lot heavier. If you want to use AA or want DX9-heavy effects right away, I'd reccomend getting a 9500 (pro or non-pro) or 9600pro card.

vampireuk
10-13-03, 07:51 AM
I think you guys are forgetting the aussie currency, the thing is insane:eek:

ragejg
10-13-03, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by Edge
High end ($200+ USD): 9700/9800 cards (NOT the 9800SE)
Medium end ($150-$200): 9500/9600pro (9600 non-pro is a bit slow)
Low end (under $100): Geforce FX5200 128 meg

That's what I'd reccomend. The FX5200 would probably do you fine until the next generation of cards where DX9 effects will be a lot heavier. If you want to use AA or want DX9-heavy effects right away, I'd reccomend getting a 9500 (pro or non-pro) or 9600pro card.

I cannot recommend the 5200 when there's all these other NV cards in the market with more power per dollar...

Geforce 3 ti500: $50-$65 (ragejg's bang for buck #2)
Geforce 4 ti4200 64 mb: $65-$75 (ragejg's bang for buck #1)
Geforce 4 ti4200 128mb: $90-$100
Geforce 4 ti4400: $95-$120
Geforce 4 ti4600: $105-$130
GeforceFX 5600: $105-$130
GeforceFX 5600 Ultra: $145-$210 (ragejg's bang for buck #3)
GeforceFX 5800: $200-$225 (ragejg's bang for buck #5)
GeforceFX 5900: ~$225-$250 (ragejg's bang for buck #4)

... that's a mix of FS/FT forum prices and pricewatch...

so, what cards here are available in AUS? ... and how much is the inflation rate??:p

the "bang for buck" thing is only my opinion... but I think a few here would agree with me on some of these...

B&R
10-13-03, 03:06 PM
Mainstream = 9600p.

High end = 9800np.

hithere
10-13-03, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by Lfctony
For higher end that doesn't cost too much, you could go for a Saphire 9800SE with a 256Bit bus and unlock the other 4 pipelines using SoftR9800, for improved performance.

Wha?! I thought the only card you could unlock the "extra" four pipes was a 9500np (good luck finding one)...AFAIK, the 9800SE comes with 8 pipes enabled, only slower RAM + slower clocked core. Is there something I don't know going on?

LabRat
10-13-03, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by hithere
Wha?! I thought the only card you could unlock the "extra" four pipes was a 9500np (good luck finding one)...AFAIK, the 9800SE comes with 8 pipes enabled, only slower RAM + slower clocked core. Is there something I don't know going on?

You're thinking of the 9800non-pro. The 9800se has 4 pipes disabled, probably because it didn't pass QC with 8 pipes. It's a crap shoot.

Here:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?threadid=673747

ragejg
10-13-03, 04:16 PM
o000h, jakUp, nice new avatar... :drool:

Rogozhin
10-13-03, 04:21 PM
I was about to say the same thing-now that's an ass.

rogo

hithere
10-14-03, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by LabRat
You're thinking of the 9800non-pro. The 9800se has 4 pipes disabled, probably because it didn't pass QC with 8 pipes. It's a crap shoot.

Here:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?threadid=673747

No, I'm thinking of the 9500np, which i own, that shipped with 4 pipes disabled, and I unlocked them via Wizard's mod, and doubled my fillrate and achieved a clock the same as a 9700, back in February. I was not aware that ANY 9800 pro, non-pro, se, or xt had shipped with 4 pipes disabled. AFAIK, the only four-pipe cards from ATI to debut after the R300, were the 9600's.

Edit: Wow! I stand corrected...apparently, people ARE modding their four-pipe 9800SE's to 8-pipe 9800's/pros. NICE. I'm not gonna spend any money on the deal, tho, I got my 9500np-turned-9700pro doing just fine:D Think I'll wait for the R420/500-whatever before I upgrade. If people are having a fair degree of success with this, then I would wholly reccommend the deal to those wishing to do and upgrade.

CaptNKILL
10-14-03, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by hithere
No, I'm thinking of the 9500np, which i own, that shipped with 4 pipes disabled, and I unlocked them via Wizard's mod, and doubled my fillrate and achieved a clock the same as a 9700, back in February. I was not aware that ANY 9800 pro, non-pro, se, or xt had shipped with 4 pipes disabled. AFAIK, the only four-pipe cards from ATI to debut after the R300, were the 9600's.

Edit: Wow! I stand corrected...apparently, people ARE modding their four-pipe 9800SE's to 8-pipe 9800's/pros. NICE. I'm not gonna spend any money on the deal, tho, I got my 9500np-turned-9700pro doing just fine:D Think I'll wait for the R420/500-whatever before I upgrade. If people are having a fair degree of success with this, then I would wholly reccommend the deal to those wishing to do and upgrade.
Dont jump on it too quick..... from what I have heard, the success rate is pretty damn low. If it was higher, believe me, I would have bought one.

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

EDIT: Read through the thread a bit more. All of the cards with non "L" shaped memory (only 128bit) can only turn into the equivalent of a 9500 Pro. This is a BIG difference in speed compaired to the 9800 Pro people think they are guaranteed through the mod. What sucks is, the cards with L shaped memory (9800 pro modable) cost upwards of $235, as opposed to the sub $170 for the other version (9500 pro modable). Then of course, you have to consider the (high) possibility that the mod wont work, leaving you with a 9600 Pro (actually slower in most cases) for between $170 and $250. Hardly the amazing deal people are making it out to be when you can get a really nice 9600 Pro for under $150.