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halduemilauno
10-14-03, 07:54 AM
hi.
http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/radeon/asus-ati.html
You have to see the quality comment.
They have used as a NV38 a NV35 OC so without its modifies.
:D :D

DMA
10-14-03, 09:01 AM
Slightly off topic but what the heck :D

If you look at the picture of the Asus 9600XT VPU it says RV350. What happened to RV360? :)
Maybe they used the wrong pic..dunno.

Anyway, some good reading that review.

http://www.ixbt.com/video2/images/asus-ati/asus-9600xt-chip.jpg

john19055
10-14-03, 09:42 AM
This is not a flame but in one article did'nt it said with the new drivers that nvidia used had there own optimization on filtering witch could be the cause of some of the gains,I just don't want to see other companies doing the same for FPS wins.I am glad nvidia come up with a way to make there games run better and IQ just about on par if not on par, just witch they did it without any conterverious over driver not filter like they are supposed to do with nvidia's fixed filtering and not having a way to do true trilinier filtering.But I guest hey if you can't tell a difference between the two,may hats off to nvidia for doing what they had to do.
The article I am refering to is www.3dcenter.org/artikel/detonator_52.14/index_e.php

r2d2d3d4d5
10-14-03, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by halduemilauno
hi.
http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/radeon/asus-ati.html
You have to see the quality comment.
They have used as a NV38 a NV35 OC so without its modifies.
:D :D Is that article still up? It seems to have been removed but their front page is still linking to it.:mad:

Did it include a review of the 9600XT? I'm hopping a review comes out soon so that I can compare it to the 9800se with 256bit memory which seems to have similar pricing.

edit//
OK it's back up now. :confused:

Based on that review and this (http://www.ixbt-labs.com/articles2/radeon/sapphire-4.html) one the 9600XT seems to be at least the same or better than the 256bit memory 9800se. The only thing holding me back now is Asus using an older Rage Theatre chip and oh yes no UK retailer having them in stock.:(

DMA
10-14-03, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by r2d2d3d4d5
Is that article still up? It seems to have been removed but their front page is still linking to it.:mad:



Asus, Digit-Life break ATI NDA (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=12112)

Guess tomorrow is the day for some nice Radeon 9600XT reviews then :)

Channel sources confirm that the 9600XT NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) for publication of such articles expires tomorrow, October 15th 2003 at 14:00 GMT.

russo121
10-14-03, 02:54 PM
Look at this http://www.amdzone.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1351
Now Radeons wins every benchmark..... I'm tired of this..... what the hell am i going to upgrade to? Ati 9800xt or Nvidia 5950?
Reviewers at this moment must follow patterns of benchmarking...... I mean.... I don't mind different bases like CPU, Ram, Motherboard, etc, but, an agreement on the same drivers....every respectfull reviewer should vote for the best and acceptable driver of each IHV.... after that every reviewer should test with the same bunch of drivers....
There is another problem..... Why Nvidia leaks future drivers? they want us to test it or what? To see it's bugs in IQ? Or the leaks are not intentional and we are all searching and discussing for nothing....
I mean, it seems stupid a IHV like Nvidia "try" to "sell" us it's IQ with leaked drivers...... unless, these drivers (52.xx) were not meant to be accessed by us at any time.... until they're refined and WHQL....
What do you think about this guys......... and what should I buy?

:confused:

r2d2d3d4d5
10-14-03, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by r2d2d3d4d5
The only thing holding me back now is Asus using an older Rage Theatre chip and oh yes no UK retailer having them in stock.:(

OK. One retailer claims to have 6 in stock at about 170 each (the 9600 pro retails at about 130 here in the UK).

Should I buy a first revision card (OK it's not a first rivision card but it is Asus's first attempt at an ATI card for some time) or should I wait to see what other manufacturers come up with (especially with regards to faster memory). Then again it looks like the Asus card has some potential in terms of overclokcing the memory. But then again no one should buy a card on possible overclocking potential. Is there any chance of prices falling when the other cards start comming out?

:confused:

edit:
// Scratch that. After deciding to buy that card I found out that the retailer I mention above only accepts credits cards and not debit cards so it looks like I'll have to wait another couple of weeks. :argh: By then I expect other versions to come out and I'll be able to take my time to compare what they have to offer.:jammin://

goblin
10-15-03, 10:52 AM
Yea hats off to the cheaters. Hey I can't tell the difference between 1024 rez and 1600. Hats off to me for speeding up my games by running at 1024 cause I can't tell. LOL.



Originally posted by john19055
This is not a flame but in one article did'nt it said with the new drivers that nvidia used had there own optimization on filtering witch could be the cause of some of the gains,I just don't want to see other companies doing the same for FPS wins.I am glad nvidia come up with a way to make there games run better and IQ just about on par if not on par, just witch they did it without any conterverious over driver not filter like they are supposed to do with nvidia's fixed filtering and not having a way to do true trilinier filtering.But I guest hey if you can't tell a difference between the two,may hats off to nvidia for doing what they had to do.
The article I am refering to is www.3dcenter.org/artikel/detonator_52.14/index_e.php