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TheTaz
10-22-03, 03:01 PM
From: http://www.anandtech.com/news/index.html

Albatron Technology Co. LTD., a manufacturer and global distributor of high technology PC components recently announced the new GeForce FX5700U graphics card. The GPU (FX 5700 Ultra – NV36) on this board is currently being highly touted by nVIDIA® and contains impressive performance capabilities including a 475 MHz GPU clock speed and a DDR II memory interface capable of 900 MHz . This card also comes with nVIDIA®’s latest versions of CineFXTM (ver 2.0), Intellisample HCT (High-resolution Compression Technology), and UltrashadowTM Technology, making up the industry’s most powerful suite of firmware and software technology for the graphics market.

nVIDIA®’s FX 5700 Ultra GPU features an enhanced second-generation release of CineFXTM (ver 2.0) and Intellisample antialiasing with HCT (High-resolution Compression Technology). These versions come with new features and improvements used to produce the highest quality graphics with uncanny 3D rendering, shadow manipulation and pixel perfect resolution. UltrashadowTM Technology also further enhances shadow display by providing extensive shadow manipulation and processing techniques. nVIDIA® also continues to develop for OpenGL® 1.5 and Microsoft DirectX® 9.0 applications ensuring a perfect fit for a wide variety of complex gaming software.

The FX5700U has been equipped with a patented “2+1 Backup”, triple-fan cooling system which has been upgraded from the previous “Wise Fan” and dubbed “Wise Fan ll”. With the “Wise Fan II”, the third fan (backup fan) will startup when any of the two primary fans malfunction or when the GPU temperature reaches 56°C. This provides ultimate protection for extreme-condition graphics performance. With the additional fans for this card, Albatron has also gone to great lengths to suppress fan noise down to about 25 dBA, almost 10 dBA less than most fans on the market today.

This card comes equipped with a versatile lineup of interface ports including D-Sub, DVI and TV-Out. Bundled software includes WinDVD Creator, “Duke NuKem: Manhattan Project” (retail version) and a 5 in 1 game pack CD-ROM. The Albatron GeForce FX5700U VGA was built for performance and reliability and focuses on providing the mainstream market a very attractive high-end alternative.

At least we know the clockspeeds, now.

Taz

B&R
10-22-03, 03:17 PM
NIce. Mem at 900Mhz DDR2.

Hellbinder
10-22-03, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by B&R
NIce. Mem at 900Mhz DDR2.
Looks like the information that the FX5700 was between 450-475 ram was right on.

475/450..

That is just crazy for a mid range card.

Hellbinder
10-22-03, 03:49 PM
BTW.. that means that..

-9600XT = 9.6GB bandwidth..

-FX5700U =14.4GB bandwidth

A 5 GB advantage to Nvidia. That is going to make a serious difference in AA perfomance in these two cards when the game is not shader limited.

StealthHawk
10-22-03, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by Hellbinder
Looks like the information that the FX5700 was between 450-475 ram was right on.

475/450..

That is just crazy for a mid range card.

Of course they are going to increase the clockspeed over the NV31. NVIDIA isn't crazy like ATI. 400/400 -> 475/450 really isn't all that crazy at all.

bkswaney
10-22-03, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by StealthHawk
Of course they are going to increase the clockspeed over the NV31. NVIDIA isn't crazy like ATI. 400/400 -> 475/450 really isn't all that crazy at all.

Agreed. :)

ATI better be careful because NV seems to be getting back on track now.
The 5700U is going to just kill the 9600xt for the most part.

It kinda looks like the 5700u is just a remake of the 5800u.
And at 199 it's going to sell like hot cakes. :)

Rogozhin
10-22-03, 06:58 PM
This is good news.

rogo

bkswaney
10-22-03, 07:09 PM
What in the heck happened to this thread?

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19910

I was typing a reply and got the error the thread was not found. :confused:
It was the news.mydrivers.com 5700u thread.

I'm sitting here looking at the whole thread on a second browser right now.

ChrisRay
10-22-03, 07:23 PM
Nvidia sure isnt shy when it comes to clock speeds. It also has the 5900 shaders and the 5900 ultra shadow tech.. not bad..

DMA
10-22-03, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by bkswaney
What in the heck happened to this thread?

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19910

I was typing a reply and got the error the thread was not found. :confused:
It was the news.mydrivers.com 5700u thread.

I'm sitting here looking at the whole thread on a second browser right now.

NV agents surfing these forums chasing down NDA breakers? ;)

:afro:

ChrisW
10-22-03, 08:00 PM
That's excellent news. I hope this starts up a much needed price war.

saturnotaku
10-22-03, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by ChrisW
That's excellent news. I hope this starts up a much needed price war.

For sure. If this can force the 9600XT down to about the $150 mark that would be great.

But still, this 5700 is looking better every time I read something new about it. Now all we have to do is wait for some performance numbers, especially with AA and compared to the 9600XT.

B&R
10-22-03, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by ChrisW
That's excellent news. I hope this starts up a much needed price war.

I think 5700 is sold for $199(sorry..forgot where i got this from). If that is tru then we have some really good competition in the mainstream cards.

S.I.N
10-22-03, 09:20 PM
So will this put the FX5700 on par with the 5900NU which I am thinking of getting? Is this a better buy?:)

Hellbinder
10-22-03, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by saturnotaku
For sure. If this can force the 9600XT down to about the $150 mark that would be great.

But still, this 5700 is looking better every time I read something new about it. Now all we have to do is wait for some performance numbers, especially with AA and compared to the 9600XT.
From the little "leaks" it looks like the Two are very close in AA+AF situations. Except for a couple games like Q3 where the FX5700u gets Stupidly high FPS... and some DX9 games where the ATi gets a serious win. Looking at the middle of the pack games the Two cards are within 5 FPS of each other. At least from this early view from the ring side seats... I want to see the Powercolor 9600XT (550/760) take on the FX 5700U

http://burns.thefinaldimension.org/cwm/3dlil/lurk.gif

GlowStick
10-23-03, 12:00 AM
Id like to see HL2 benches with 9600xt vs 5700u

TheTaz
10-23-03, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by Hellbinder
[B]I want to see the Powercolor 9600XT (550/760) take on the FX 5700U

Is Powercolor any good? Everyone says get Saphire.

Glad there is an XT with better memory speed, tho.

Taz

Lezmaka
10-23-03, 02:50 AM
Originally posted by Sin
So will this put the FX5700 on par with the 5900NU which I am thinking of getting? Is this a better buy?:)

I doubt shader performance will be the same, they still had to make sacrifices to keep the transistor count down when compared to 5900.

It sounds great so far, but I'm gonna hold off final judgement until I can see a good IQ comparison to see if there are any driver optimizations that help it.

cthellis
10-23-03, 04:52 AM
For the 9600XT, Powercolor is notable primarily for offering a board with higher-speed RAM--something most of us wish ATi had done with the reference board. Overall as a company, though, there seem to be mixed feelings. What price differences may be we also don't know yet.

SurfMonkey
10-23-03, 05:49 AM
It seems that the 5700 is an overclockers dream, the best I've seen so far is 595/1100. Which is crazy.

But it still doesn't really help the poor PS2.0 performance.

jbirney
10-23-03, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by GlowStick
Id like to see HL2 benches with 9600xt vs 5700u

From Dave's little preview of the DX9 shader numbers the 5700 is still about 40% slower than the 9600XT.

Sazar
10-23-03, 10:36 AM
anand's review on the 5700ultra does not show it in as good a light as should have been expected...

ChrisRay
10-23-03, 10:38 AM
Ya.. the 5700 must still be using the same limited pipeline as the 5600. Which means. All that bandwith for naught... sigh


Toms Hardware pretty much shows the same thing. Amazes me. With 5 Gigs of bandwith difference, ATI still is competing with the XT

jimbob0i0
10-23-03, 11:07 AM
Image Quality

We are currently working on an entire article devoted to the image quality of current generation graphics cards. Where there are important or overt visual anomalies, we will note them here. Other than that, our IQ judgments will be compiled into our coming article. We attempt to be as thorough as possible and delve into as many aspects of image quality as we can. Stay tuned, as its stacking up to be very interesting.

LMAO - any one else recall the last time that AT said 'part one isn't about IQ... we will cover that later' and then fail to do so?

This review is poor to say the least and AT fails to apply their conclusions to their benchmark results... I fail to see how a 'TKO' can be claimed when overall it is the ATi one that wins - judging by the actual results....

Evan I know last time you were laughed off of nvnews but can you shed any insight 'this' time?

DMA
10-23-03, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by GlowStick
Id like to see HL2 benches with 9600xt vs 5700u

digit-life (http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/gffx/nv38-36.html/nv38-36.html) uses the HL-2 beta in some benches.