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kraigc
10-23-03, 02:32 PM
Ok, I decided to scrap the 5200 that I bought last year. Im leaning towards the 5600, but I dont know if I should get the 5600 256M or the 128M 5600U. What do you guys think? Are they overclockable to a good point?

LabRat
10-23-03, 02:36 PM
Don't waste money on less than a 5700ultra.

Edit: I'm making the assumption that you play some games, else the 5200 would be fine.

jimbob0i0
10-23-03, 02:38 PM
And if you play games and are willing to pay the cost of a 5600 Ultra read reviews of teh ATi cards too... particularly the 9600pro

Solomon
10-23-03, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by kraigc
Ok, I decided to scrap the 5200 that I bought last year. Im leaning towards the 5600, but I dont know if I should get the 5600 256M or the 128M 5600U. What do you guys think? Are they overclockable to a good point?

Well what resolution do you play your games at? If you go any higher then 1280x1024 then get a 256Mb card, because it'll be more future proof if you play high resolutions. Otherwise stick with a 128Mb card. Plus hopefully you have a good system to group the card with otherwise you are probably best to spend it on a CPU or memory upgrade.

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kraigc
10-23-03, 02:57 PM
I usually dont go over 1024x768 for anything. And as far as my system, Im running a P4 2.53 w/533 fsb and 768M of PC800 RAMBUS. How much are the 5700Us going far? I looked around and couldnt find any for sale on the internet.

TheTaz
10-23-03, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by kraigc
I usually dont go over 1024x768 for anything. And as far as my system, Im running a P4 2.53 w/533 fsb and 768M of PC800 RAMBUS. How much are the 5700Us going far? I looked around and couldnt find any for sale on the internet.

FX 5700 Ultra is $199 at Best Buy

FX 5700 Non-Ultra sposed to be about $150

Give it a few days before "Internet Stores" have them. Just was "officially launched" today.

Taz

sebazve
10-23-03, 03:58 PM
the 5700 looks good although dx9 performance/IQ is still questionable.

so if you want your card to last you may want to reconsider.

jAkUp
10-23-03, 10:32 PM
how about a 9600pro??:)

kraigc
10-23-03, 10:35 PM
Im really starting to lean towards the 5700 non ultra and just o/c it to 5700Ultra speeds. Think that will be worth it?

TheTaz
10-23-03, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by kraigc
Im really starting to lean towards the 5700 non ultra and just o/c it to 5700Ultra speeds. Think that will be worth it?

Maybe. Haven't seen how a Non-Ultra overclocks yet. Actually... haven't seen any benches yet, on the non-ultra either.

Just about anything you buy will be "Worth it", because the 5200 you have, is slower than my Geforce 3 Ti500. :p

I bought an ATi 9600 Pro for my kid, and used it for a week (before her birthday)... it's a kick@ss card. Kicked the hell out of my Ti500 and could run everything with 4XAA 8XAF. That said, my next card will most likely be an ATi 9800 or something.

From the price range you are looking at ($150)... you have 2 choices really.

FX 5700 Non Ultra
ATi 9600 Pro

For DX9 performance and Image Quality, ATi is still a better choice, IMO. But it's up to you. EITHER card would be TONS better than that 5200! ;)

Regards,

Taz

EDIT: All I've seen so far on the 5700 Non-Ultra, is that it will use DDR 1 modules instead of DDR 2. Clock Speeds have not been released. That said, I think it's gonna be a while before the Non-Ultra's hit the shelves. So, as of "right now" the 9600 Pro is the best choice for $150...

http://www.mwave.com/

AA21950 - ATI RADEON 9600 PRO 128MB 8XAGP DDR W/TV & DVI OUT (OEM - POWERED BY ATI) - $147.00

john19055
10-23-03, 11:50 PM
If you are going nvidia then I would get the 5700ultra from what I seen some where the 5700non ultra is going to have a lot slower memory.

particleman
10-24-03, 12:07 AM
Yeah I highly highly doubt that you will be able to overclock the 5700 non-ultra's memory up to 5700 Ultra speeds. The non-ultras memory only runs at 550, compared to 900Mhz on the Ultra. That is almost 2X the speed. Plus the memory (at least in the photos I've seen so far) on the non-ultra isn't even BGA ram. The 5700 non-ultra is definitely using much cheaper RAM and it will likely be impossible to get the RAM up to Ultra speeds. The ultra fast ram is what gives the 5700 ultra it's great DX8 performance (since most DX8 and older games are memory bandwidth and fillrate limited), without the fast RAM (almost 1/2 the speed I remind you) it probably won't look nearly as impressive.