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Maverickman
10-25-03, 05:51 PM
I just happened to pick up a BFG GeForce FX 5900 from Best Buy for $279 with a $50 rebate. When I went back, I saw the eVGA 5700 Ultra on the shelf for $219. The 5900 will only be $10 after the rebate, but I'm now sure if it's better than the 5700 Ultra. From the reviews I've read, the 5700 is a great product with DDR and improved PS 2.0 support. Since, can still exchange my 5900 for the 5700 Ultra, I was wondering if anyone could let me know which card is better. If it's a toss-up, I'll just keep the 5900. Thanks for the advice!!!

The Baron
10-25-03, 05:53 PM
5900 is better.

Rogozhin
10-25-03, 06:08 PM
5900

rogo

Maverickman
10-25-03, 06:10 PM
Thanks. Why is the 5900 better when the 5700 Ultra uses DDR-II RAM and runs at a higher clock/memory speed. I think the default for my 5900 is 400/850 while the default for the 5700 Ultra is 475/900!!!

The Baron
10-25-03, 06:13 PM
Pipeline configuration and memory bus. I believe 5900 trumps 5700 Ultra in both.

green_meanie
10-25-03, 06:26 PM
The 5900 is faster than the 5700Ultra due mainly to it's 256 bit memory bus. I'll take a wider bus over faster ram anyday. That point was proven when the 5800 went up against the 9700Pro and the 9700Pro kicked it's ass.

In fact I just returned my 5600Ultra for a 5900 and am very happy with the speed increase. I pressed auto detect in the overclocking tab and it gave me 455/960 and it runs without a hiccup at that speed. At stock speeds 400/850 the 5900 was ALOT faster than my 5600Ultra @456/878. I don't even know if i'm going to keep it overclocked because i'm happy with my FPS at default speeds.

You made the right decision, keep the 5900.

Maverickman
10-25-03, 06:37 PM
Thanks, green_meanie. I know that the higher-numbered cards are usually better, but I was concerned that the 5700 Ultra with its higher clock and DDR-II RAM might be better than my 5900. I've read that the ATI 9600 PRO is actually slower than the 9500 PRO, so I thought the same might be the case with the newer 5700 Ultra. Thanks for the advice. I'll keep the 5900. It's only $10 more than the 5700 Ultra after the rebate!

green_meanie
10-25-03, 06:39 PM
The 9600Pro is slower than the 9500Pro, you're right. I have a 9800Pro in my other rig, i'm happy with both of my cards.

Blacklash
10-25-03, 06:52 PM
I was debating the exact same thing, FX 5700U vs FX 5900.

Hope I can find the 5900 they have been scarce lately.

Maverickman
10-25-03, 08:47 PM
I was able to pick up my 5900 at a good price from Best Buy. This card once sold for $399. I picked mine up for $279 with a $50 rebate. When newer cards are introduced the older ones go down. That's when you can get deals. I bet you can pick up a 5900 Ultra for a lot less than $499.

LiquidX
10-25-03, 11:19 PM
Try less than $400, guys newegg is your friend.:)

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=property&catalog=48&mfrcode=0&propertycodevalue=4828,3668&keywords=&minprice=&maxprice=&description=%20&page=1

aapo
10-26-03, 04:39 AM
Originally posted by Maverickman
I've read that the ATI 9600 PRO is actually slower than the 9500 PRO, so I thought the same might be the case with the newer 5700 Ultra.

Exactly. However, all of these card (and FX5600) have 128 bit memory bus. The only one of these cards that has 8x1 pipeline is 9500pro, so in spite of it's low clock speed, it's in the top place with the FX5700. So (leaving out PS2.0) the order of the cards is approximately (FX5700ultra and R9500pro), R9600pro, FX5600ultra.

FX5900 is in totally different league (usually 4x2, but with high clocks and 256 bus), so it's the recommended choice of these cards. But the funniest thing is, one can soft-mod certain R9500 non-pros to have 256bit bus and 8x1 pipelines, because the early revisions of the card have 9700 pcb with bus and pipelines disabled in bios. This makes the card jump to R9700np and FX5900 levels.

So, some versions of R9500np are still better than R9500pro, R9600, R9600pro, FX5600, FX5600ultra, FX5700 and FX5700ultra. It's a pity you can't buy these cheap badboys any more. :D

Greg
10-26-03, 05:48 AM
Just for your interest, the 5800 or at least 5800ultra is faster than the 5700ultra. So if you see a cheap 5800 you may still want to consider it.

bkswaney
10-27-03, 03:42 AM
5900 for sure! :)





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B&R
10-27-03, 12:47 PM
5900 but price/per value 5700U for sure.