2001 Nature optimisations for Nvidia are gone with latest drivers...

[ChrisRay]

Or They at least appear to be.

I plugged in my Geforce FX 5900 today and did a 3dmark2001 run, To my surprise when I loaded nature I saw a huge quality increase, Expecially on the water, I mean, It looked great. And IMO the scene ran and looked a whole lot better.

I also noticed that with 2001 the Nature score drops significantly from older drivers, Has anyone else noticed this? Your thoughts on this?

[euan]

I wouldn't be surprised if NV had updated to Divx 5 for the avi's of all the benchmarks that they keep embedded in those huge drivers... :D:afro:

[bkswaney]

How much did your total score drop?

[ChrisRay]

Originally posted by bkswaney
How much did your total score drop?


Like 1,000 points, It's obviously nature optimisations. I only get like 85 FPS in the Nature Demo

And like I said, the water looks MUCH better than the old optimised water.

[Razor04]

Eh not that this is a bad thing, but they probably just removed them as they deem 01 not as important as 03 now and besides this way they can free up a little more space in their drivers to add a few more "optimizations" elsewhere. :)

[ChrisW]

I wonder if some optimizations will be removed after the NV40 comes out? Will nVidia still take the time to optimize new games for their old NV3x line of cards?

[Razor04]

I was wondering that a few weeks back...I was about to start a lengthy thread on it too...and then the HL2 bombshell hit and it wasn't worth it anymore as the thread would have been lost in the noise. I would hope that they remove them...and I would bet they will...look how fast they disowned the 5800. Makes you wonder though...if it (optimization) still has a benefit for the NV40 and up cards would they remove it even though they would lose performance? From their past actions it appears that if the optimization still provided a benefit they wouldn't remove it till the application is either obsolete or even without the optimization they can score higher than the competition.

[bkswaney]

Nope.... I think the they will take the high road like ati did and stay with DX specs this time.

Maybe they learned there lesson. :)

[Tricky]

Chris, your totally right about the new drivers being slower - ive lost in the region of 1000marks with the new drivers. i used to max out around 105fps at the start of 'nature' - now im down to around 75. not a major snag because all games still run just as fast, but it does make my o/c'ed 4200 scores seem not quite as good!

[ragejg]

Hmm... methinks it would be nice to run benchies with the "best for '01" FX compatible drivers and compare them to 52.16... 40.71?? Or is that version too early???

[StealthHawk]

Again, all I can say is "stay tuned." Real life issues have slowed done my testing. And Diablo2 1.10 patch sure hasn't helped things either :p

[Eck]

In 3DMark01, my nature score did drop a bit, but my other scores went up. Overall, these drivers gave me a 100 point increase over 45.23.

[Sazar]

Originally posted by Eck
In 3DMark01, my nature score did drop a bit, but my other scores went up. Overall, these drivers gave me a 100 point increase over 45.23.

is the nv35 running smoother in your system ?

I didn't realise you had switched it up from before :)

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by ChrisRay
Like 1,000 points, It's obviously nature optimisations. I only get like 85 FPS in the Nature Demo

And like I said, the water looks MUCH better than the old optimised water.

And what was your nature score before? I only ask because I'm not seeing what you're seeing(apparently). Nature doesn't seem to have dropped at all from 45.23 -> 52.16 for me.

[ChrisRay]

Try the 44.03 drivers Stealthhawk.

Nvidia aparently has said its a bug *shrug* Looks like te me like the optimisation has been removed heh.


http://discuss.futuremark.com/forum/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=techdisplayadapters&Number=2973435&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=1

[StealthHawk]

Well, you can see my detailed findings about 3dmark2001 optimizations here (http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20526).

[fivefeet8]

I've also noticed a FPS drop from 141 fps in the Nature test in 3dmark2k1se to 100 fps. A 40 fps drop. I'll post up my futuremark comparison later. Seems futuremark is down for maintenance.

I benched it using 44.67 then 52.16.

[saturnotaku]

Originally posted by StealthHawk
And Diablo2 1.10 patch sure hasn't helped things either :p

LOL I know what you mean. I've been busy leveling up my trusty old Paladin. Level 74 and climbing. Gotta get to 79 so I can use Schaeffer's Hammer. :D