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Mullucke
11-03-03, 08:10 PM
Hi!

At the moment i still have an old geforce 2-card.

Now i can buy 2 different cards from a friend of mine:

"Geforce 4 TI 4200 64MB" and "Radeon 9600 Non-Pro 128MB"

What card would you take?

I mean,the Radeon is a dx9-card and has more memory than the geforce-card...

But what about the performance?

Is the Radeon 9600 Non-Pro also faster then the Geforce 4 TI 4200?

Will the Radeon be good enough for future games like Half Life 2 and Doom 3?

And will it match with my computer (Athlon XP 1800+ , 512MB DDR-RAM)?

So,Radeon 9600 Non-Pro 128MB or Geforce 4 TI 4200 64 MB ???

LiquidX
11-03-03, 08:36 PM
I really cant say much about the ATI but I still have Ti4200 and its a great card. I havent had any problems at all with it. This is as screen shot shot I posted for COD in the games section. I am sure it wont hold up for future games but for right now its a great buy.

Maverickman
11-03-03, 08:43 PM
I also know that the Ti 4200 is a great card. If you were choosing between a Ti 4200 and a 9600 PRO, I'd go for the ATI card. I'm not sure I'd take a 9600 over the Ti 4200. However, if you're looking forward to Half-Life 2 (and who isn't?), you'd definitely want the 9600 np. It'll run the games with all effects at decent fps. Just don't go over 1024X768.

saturnotaku
11-03-03, 09:13 PM
The ATI card will be more future-proof, however spend the extra money and get the Pro version. The extra speed will come in handy.

Clay
11-03-03, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by Mullucke
Hi!

At the moment i still have an old geforce 2-card.

Now i can buy 2 different cards from a friend of mine:

"Geforce 4 TI 4200 64MB" and "Radeon 9600 Non-Pro 128MB"

What card would you take?
What is your friend's asking price for each? The reason I ask is that if he wants considerably less for the 4200 then you might want to go with that for now...save some cash for a few months...then sell your 4200 for more cash...and then by around Q1/Q2 '04 you could get a midrange next-gen card from either ATI or NVIDIA. Just a different idea to chew on. :)

bkswaney
11-03-03, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by saturnotaku
The ATI card will be more future-proof, however spend the extra money and get the Pro version. The extra speed will come in handy.

I agree.... hang on for about 2 weeks and get a Pro. The XT will hit the shelf
and the Pro price will drop.

o check out www.pricewatch.com for the best prices.
Also check newegg.com and u might can find a Refurb for hardly nothing. :)

But by all means go ATI.

bkswaney
11-03-03, 09:45 PM
If u want a cool looking 5900 look here. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=48&manufactory=1487&Type=Refurbish&sortby=14&order=1

190 bucks for it. :)
The 5900 is the best bang for the buck right now.


Here is a 9600Pro for 150.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=48&manufactory=1487&Type=Refurbish&sortby=14&order=1


Here is a Pro for 143.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=48&manufactory=1419&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1

What is a 9600Pro EZ ver?

ChrisRay
11-03-03, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by bkswaney
If u want a cool looking 5900 look here. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=48&manufactory=1487&Type=Refurbish&sortby=14&order=1

190 bucks for it. :)
The 5900 is the best bang for the buck right now.


Here is a 9600Pro for 150.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=48&manufactory=1487&Type=Refurbish&sortby=14&order=1


Here is a Pro for 143.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=48&manufactory=1419&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1

What is a 9600Pro EZ ver?

Holy crap 191 dollars? ahh its refurbished..

bkswaney
11-03-03, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by ChrisRay
Holy crap 191 dollars? ahh its refurbished..

Yep but there refurbs are top notch. :)

Clay
11-03-03, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by bkswaney
Yep but there refurbs are top notch. :)
True. I have an ABIT NF7-S refurb that arrived in full retail packaging/box/etc. It's even version 2.0...looks like it's never been used. :)

saturnotaku
11-03-03, 10:55 PM
They had an FIC 9800 Pro for $230. :eek:

I'll bet those sold out in 5 minutes.

SocketAzzWipe
11-03-03, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by bkswaney


Ok, these Newegg bastards need to ship to Canada or open an online store here.

Gator
11-04-03, 06:48 AM
I guess I'd pick the R9600 non-pro, but what prices are we talking here? I know he's a friend and all, but you could buy a R9600Pro REALLY cheap online these days. The R9600 non-pro is a good card, but if I were buying new I wouldn't remotely consider it an option.

The GF4TI4200 is good too, and if you had said 128mb with a low ns chips, then I might have vote for it because it would have overclocking potential. But the 64mb version? Nah, the R9600 non-pro would outperform it then.

Mullucke
11-04-03, 07:24 AM
Well,i can have the Radeon and the Geforce for the same price (don't know how much money exactly).That for i don't know what card to take.

For the same price,what card would you buy?

I think for the same price the Radeon is better than the Geforce,or not?!

Gator
11-04-03, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by Mullucke
Well,i can have the Radeon and the Geforce for the same price (don't know how much money exactly).That for i don't know what card to take.

For the same price,what card would you buy?

I think for the same price the Radeon is better than the Geforce,or not?!

R9600 non-pro 128ddr sells for $107 new at pricewatch.com
GF4 Ti4200 64ddr sells for $79 new at pricewatch.com

so if you can get the R9600 non-pro 128ddr for $79 or less, that's a DAMN good deal :)

digitalwanderer
11-04-03, 09:35 AM
Without any AA or AF they're probably a close match in performance, but if you use any anti-aliasing or anisotropic filtering the 9600 will blow away the GF4.

I had a GF4 ti4400 that I really loved and an AIW 9600 Pro that I'm really falling in love with right now, the 9600 Pro is damn near as good as my 9700 Pro for gaming! (In benchmarks the 9700 beats the 9600 hands down, but they both do game pretty close...and they both game excellently!)

cthellis
11-04-03, 03:44 PM
At that performance level I'd start wanting to add some AA/Ansio in anyway, so I'd lean more towards the 9600. That it should handle newer and future games better is an added bonus. ;)

TimeOut
11-04-03, 04:49 PM
This is the first GeForceFX 5900SE I have seen.

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=Go&description=N82E16814130179

It says 2.8 ns DDR (700mhz), but it does not say the GPU mhz. It should be 400Mhz.

saturnotaku
11-04-03, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by TimeOut
This is the first GeForceFX 5900SE I have seen.

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=Go&description=N82E16814130179

It says 2.8 ns DDR (700mhz), but it does not say the GPU mhz. It should be 400Mhz.

That's not one of the options here. Apparently the only two choices are the 9600NP and Ti4200. Of those two, I still say take the 9600.

Besides, that 5900SE is a gimped card. If you spend $1 more, you can get the Leadtek 5900, which has clock speeds more befitting of this particular GPU.

Edge
11-05-03, 03:42 AM
If they're the same price, I'd say the 9600. It will probably be a bit slower then the TI4200 card in raw benchmarks, but with AA/Aniso the 9600 will pull ahead. Also the DX9 compatability will help quite a bit for future games.

But how much are you paying for them? If it's over $100 for a used card, I'd say just hold out and get a new 9600pro from newegg or something instead.