Faster ATI 9700 Coming?

[borntosoul]

yes i have to say that ati are on a good wicket hehe (cricket term for in a good posi )they have their card out and can focus on the next one ,if they can do a card like the 9700 and have it out to market in such a short time emagine what their next card is going to be like when they can move to .13 micron and have ironed out the bugs ,oh dont think for one second that nvidia dont have a really good idea of how fast the nv30 will be ,and im sure this is going to be a great battle ,but with all that said it seems as to me nvidia still hold the cards :)

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by jbirney
Why would it be crazy? Its all about staying on the top. Thats what is important to them and good for business.

yeah, that's why nvidia released the GF3 Ti500 which couldn't beat the R8500 across the board in terms of performance eh?

to release another product after 3 months is nothing but ridiculous. that's assuming the rumors are correct in saying there will be a R9700, R9500, and R9500Pro released soon too.

we'll see if nvidia ever releases another Ti4400-esqe product again. from what i've heard, it didn't sell too well. i see no reason why ATI would want to do something like that.

R9700ProPro, R9700Pro, R9700, R9500Pro would all be $200+ high end gaming cards. in other words, too many close performing cards with close price range.

[borntosoul]

well for once im really in two minds on how i THINK the nv30 will perform ,one personality says that it will have great features not much of a performance gain over the 9700 if any ,and my other side said that it will really kick butt being %20to%30 faster ,but one thing im thinking is that we will get a vanilla nv30 first up to get them out to market followed by an ultra version later ,like what happend with the gf3,eg. gf3, gf3 500ti and gf3 ti 200 later on ,this i think will be the pattern for the nv30 not like what we saw with the gf4 line ,thats my 1 1/2 cents worth

[thcdru2k]

nvidia has yet to disappoint i don't think they will start now, if it helps it seems as if the nforce2 sure will not either. they usually succeed. nv30 will be fast, and it sure will be powerful.

[Bigus Dickus]

Originally posted by thcdru2k
nvidia has yet to disappoint i don't think they will start nowI think most would agree that the GF3 Ti and GF4 (8X) launches were less than exciting. In fact, many many NVIDIA fans were quite dissapointed that the GF3 Ti offered no core improvements, features, or anything else. Likewise for the GF4 (8X).

[borntosoul]

comeon you cant argue about the geforce 3 and 4 line of cards ,what did you expect ?geforce 3 laid the groundwork for dx8 and the geforce 4 gave for the first time playable aa at high res ,its like when i here people saying the the radeaon 9700 is not impresive ,dont expect a miracle cause its not comin

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by borntosoul
comeon you cant argue about the geforce 3 and 4 line of cards ,what did you expect ?geforce 3 laid the groundwork for dx8 and the geforce 4 gave for the first time playable aa at high res ,its like when i here people saying the the radeaon 9700 is not impresive ,dont expect a miracle cause its not comin
he was obviously talking about the GF3Ti line as a "refresh" of the GF3 and the GF4 with 8x AGP as a refresh of the GF4, and NOT the original cards themselves

[borntosoul]

yeh oups sorry didnt see that one :( too many late nights me thinks

[jbirney]

Actually the GF4 were nothing to get excited about. Just a bit faster and finaly they could support DX8.1. Thats about it. No new features to talk about.

[Bigus Dickus]

The GF4 isn't a fully DX8.1 card either.

[SurfMonkey]

The .1 of 8.1 is an ATi extension :)

[jbirney]

Ahhhooo I thought having PS1.3 was DX8.1 complience...

Or was that just PS1.1

Crap way too confusing. Thanks MS I hope they dont do that with DX9 again although I hear the fragmentation has already started.....

[borntosoul]

well i thought the geforce 4 was great ,it was sooo damn fast ,and still is i suppose ,

[StealthHawk]

Originally posted by jbirney
Ahhhooo I thought having PS1.3 was DX8.1 complience...

Or was that just PS1.1

Crap way too confusing. Thanks MS I hope they dont do that with DX9 again although I hear the fragmentation has already started.....

i'm pretty sure you're right. Xabre claims to be a DX8.1 card, and they only support PS1.3, so....

i'm pretty sure that PS1.2, 1.3, 1.4 are all NOT included in DX8.0, and are all part of 8.1

so BD is correct in saying it is not a fully DX8.1 compliant card.