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Maverick123w
11-18-03, 03:01 AM
Well atm ive got a extremely hot running geofrce 4 ti 4200 64mb. Im trying to get a 5900 from a friend for $165 but if that doesnt work out i have the ability to buy a evga 4600 for $100. I'm just curious what the performance difference i would with these 2 cards. Also im def. in 2 overclocking so if anyone knows some ocing results on 4600's let me know. Thanks -Mav

Edge
11-18-03, 03:22 AM
A TI4600 will probably be around 35% faster then a TI4200 at stock speeds, depending on settings. Though the higher-end cards usually don't overclock as well as the lower-end cards, so that margin may be cut down to around 25%. But what OC are you getting on your current TI4200? Stock speeds for a TI4600 are 300/650 so if you're already getting near that you won't notice that big of a performence difference (unless the TI4600 you get is an overclocking god). However the extra 64 megs of ram will help it quite a bit in upcoming games, particularly Doom 3 and Half-life 2 which use over 80 megs of textures. I'd say just skip out on the TI4600 and save up for an FX5900 or ATI9800, for double the price you'd get a much bigger performance jump and faster AA/Aniso, as well as DX9 features.

gstanford
11-18-03, 04:36 AM
Actually I've just ordered a GF4 Ti4800 for ~$193 US ($270 AU, which is a good price here) to replace my GF3 Ti200.

I'm still a bit wary of the nv3x anisotropic filtering, especially after what 52.14 did on my GF3 (which makes me think there must be a way to force the optimizations off on nv3x also) and I doubt DX9 will become truly essential until around this time next year.

I bought my GF3 2 months after GF4 Ti4200 was introduced and it has held up extremely well, I think the same will be true of the GF4 Ti4800.

As for filtering/AA I found Quincunx + 2x or 4x Aniso (depending on speed hit) + -8 texture LOD looks great on GF3 @1024x768, hopefully the GF4 lets me do the same @1280x960 with 4x or 8x aniso.

john19055
11-18-03, 09:06 AM
I would say if you already have a TI4200,you should at least try to get a R9600XT or a FX5700ultra to really see some difference in future games.But if that 5900 deal wroks out that would be great.

Maverick123w
11-18-03, 11:59 AM
Yah.. i woudnlt consider the 4600 cept for the fact my 4200 can barely run stable at stock speeds. Damn heatsink fell of and i replaced it with some crappy compusa paste and it does the trick ok but no ocing. Thats why i wanted a 4600 maybe i could get that difference up to about 40-45% and that would be sweet.

Gator
11-18-03, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by Maverick123w
Well atm ive got a extremely hot running geofrce 4 ti 4200 64mb. Im trying to get a 5900 from a friend for $165 but if that doesnt work out i have the ability to buy a evga 4600 for $100...

TI4600 for $100 is a GREAT deal... however you should know that the more powerful FX5900non-ultra can be had for about $200 at http://www.newegg.com . So if that deal with your friend for the 5900 doesn't work out, consider spending a little more and just buying it new. Yes, the TI4600 kicks ass, but wouldn't you rather have a 5900 for a couple extra bucks ;)

Maverick123w
11-18-03, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by Gator
TI4600 for $100 is a GREAT deal... however you should know that the more powerful FX5900non-ultra can be had for about $200 at http://www.newegg.com . So if that deal with your friend for the 5900 doesn't work out, consider spending a little more and just buying it new. Yes, the TI4600 kicks ass, but wouldn't you rather have a 5900 for a couple extra bucks ;)

Yes... shut up :D :D

nVidi0t
11-18-03, 01:54 PM
I love my Ti4600 :)

Still smokes any game available. (Without AA and AF ofcourse)

Gator
11-19-03, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by nVidi0t
I love my Ti4600 :)

Still smokes any game available. (Without AA and AF ofcourse)

I tend to agree, I got no complaints with my TI4400, but the problem is if you buy a GF4TI now, you may regret it tomorrow for HL2 and Doom3 :(

poursoul
11-19-03, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by Maverick123w
Yah.. i woudnlt consider the 4600 cept for the fact my 4200 can barely run stable at stock speeds. Damn heatsink fell of and i replaced it with some crappy compusa paste and it does the trick ok but no ocing. Thats why i wanted a 4600 maybe i could get that difference up to about 40-45% and that would be sweet.

wait, did you say that you replaced your heatsink with thermal grease?

I certainly hope you put another HS on there.

Maverick123w
11-19-03, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by poursoul
wait, did you say that you replaced your heatsink with thermal grease?

I certainly hope you put another HS on there.

Uh yah of course i did lol

gstanford
11-20-03, 12:08 AM
Just received my ASUS V9280S2 (detonators recognise it as a TI4800SE) a few hours back.

Overclocked straight to TI4600 speeds not a problem. This one sweet graphics card.

I love my Ti4600

Still smokes any game available. (Without AA and AF ofcourse)

I'd dispute that. The card runs Quincunx AA & 4x Aniso with a texture LOD -8 (nvhardpage measurement) brilliantly on every title I've tried it on. What drivers are you running? Contrary to popular opinion on the web, newer detonators do improve the performance of older cards quite noticeably.

I think quincunx AA is easily the most effective AA for any geforce card that supports it - 2x & 4x hardly do anything to reduce jaggies by comparison IMO.

StealthHawk, you may recall a couple of months ago you were wondering about S3TC improvements since the GF3 - the GF4 definitely have better S3TC quality - less banding. I originally posted an image of the NOLF2 ninja showing banding on her forehead - there is none on the GF4, can post a pic if you want me to.