Bush in the bush.

[UDawg]

Bush vistits Iraq. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,104246,00.html) Now I can't wait for the Dems running for president to cry about this.

[bigC]

like any ruler of a colonial power, he wanted to visit the land that he recently conquered, survey the destruction, check out the oil pumps, say hi to the troops to try and prop up morale, and get some good sound bites for tonite's news which also that will be replayed on the campaign trail next year :D

[netviper13]

I may not agree that he's a good president, but I definitely have to agree he's a good politician. But hey, if it boosted the morale of the troops then it's at least worth something good.

[1stFlight]

Ah, excellent PR material for the upcoming '04 elections.... anyone care to guess how long it take for those clips to be in commercials?

[UDawg]

clinton sent the troops to more places and didn't visit them in the field. wuss

btw do you really think it was just a pr stunt or do you think bush really cares about the troops?

[1stFlight]

Originally posted by UDawg
clinton sent the troops to more places and didn't visit them in the field. wuss

btw do you really think it was just a pr stunt or do you think bush really cares about the troops?

Given that Bush cut (http://www.senate.gov/~budget/democratic/background/2001/analysis_bush_april9_budget.pdf) VA medical benefits for the troops (see pages 3 and 6), I'd say it's more a PR stunt.

[bknblk]

Originally posted by bigC
like any ruler of a colonial power, he wanted to visit the land that he recently conquered, survey the destruction, check out the oil pumps, say hi to the troops to try and prop up morale, and get some good sound bites for tonite's news which also that will be replayed on the campaign trail next year :D

Man, just be happy we haven't decided to officially "colonize" Canada thus far. Though I would hazard to say it would be a bit easier than Iraq.

[bigC]

Originally posted by bknblk
Man, just be happy we haven't decided to officially "colonize" Canada thus far. Though I would hazard to say it would be a bit easier than Iraq. try it. we beat you once, we can do it again :D

[UDawg]

Originally posted by bigC
try it. we beat you once, we can do it again :D

That was then. ;) Besides it wasn't just you......Damn French. :D

[bigC]

Originally posted by UDawg
That was then. ;) Besides it wasn't just you......Damn French. :D we won in spite of those dirty cheese eating surrender monkeys :lol:

[PsychoSy]

Originally posted by 1stFlight
Given that Bush cut (http://www.senate.gov/~budget/democratic/background/2001/analysis_bush_april9_budget.pdf) VA medical benefits for the troops (see pages 3 and 6), I'd say it's more a PR stunt.

Doesn't surprize me...

Republicans always give troops the ultimate slap in the face for their ultimate sacrifice...

"Hi! We're the Bush Administration! Thank you for killing those terrorist for us so that our buddy Dick Cheney and his Halliburton cretins can get richer. BTW, since we Republicans have always felt that people should be paid by what we feel they are actually worth (C'mon - if we were to pay you by what YOU think you're worth, we'd lose our limos, our kids couldn't go to private schools, and Fox News would show coverage of us standing in those cheeze/dry milk/peanut butter lines at the welfare office or even, God forbid, the soup line at the local homeless shelter, which would be BAD - BAD - BAAAAAAAD for our image), we regret to inform you that we must cut your military pay and benefits! I'm sorry...but we need that capital to pay Haliburton for the Iraqi rebuilding efforts.

Semper Fi, Hooyah, or whatever...

George W. Hitler Hoover Bush Jr.
Commander-In-Chief & President of the USA (as selected by SCOTUS)"

[UDawg]

Halliburton again!? I'm sure you believe the moon landing was also fake. You libs really need to get out of the spy thriller books and poke your heads out side. Halliburton was set up specifically to handle the jobs that they do. The dems use them also. You should really stop crying about money. Oh Wait! You want to take all our money. Sorry forgot.

[vampireuk]

Nice dodge there :p

Psychosy was talking about the soldiers losing money not you:p

[Kruno]

UDawg, take a look at my avatar. :p

[1stFlight]

Originally posted by UDawg
Halliburton again!? I'm sure you believe the moon landing was also fake. You libs really need to get out of the spy thriller books and poke your heads out side. Halliburton was set up specifically to handle the jobs that they do. The dems use them also. You should really stop crying about money. Oh Wait! You want to take all our money. Sorry forgot.

It's not the so much the company as it was the selection process... there wasn't one.

Now if that doesn't just reek to you, you need your nose checked or something else in that region....

Also an interesting point, while deployed to Kuwait, the Kuwaiti gave every single soldier there 10G, seriously. The Brits got it, the French got it (don't knock them, they rock on deployments), everybody got them....except us. Why you ask? Because our government said it made us, "too much like mercenaries"

Poverty = US Soldier???? :confused:

[UDawg]

Selection process!? THERE IS NO ONE ELSE WHO IS SPECIFICALY DOES THIS AND NO ONE ELSE WHO IS AS QUALIFIED. The left's focus on this is just childesh and a distraction from the real issues.

I just can't get over how how silly this whole Halliburton cry fest is with the left. Many democrats say the process in which a specialty company like Halliburton was chosen is typical considering their SPEICALTY.

[Darth Rancid]

Hey kruno, I've got one of those too! :)

Picture (http://enterprise.hb.se/~ponder/star_hammer_sickle.jpg)

[Ninja Prime]

Where were the lib scandal cry babies when Al Gore sold off our Navy's only oil reserve(largest of it's kind in the world as I recall) to a company that his family had ties with for a rock-bottom price? Out on break? Typical partisan morons on the left. That one was more solid than the fog you're trying to grasp with this whole thing. :rolleyes:

[vampireuk]

Isn't there a slight difference between oil and troop benefits? Or do you folks from the right just see troops as natural expendable resources?

Excuse me I'm off to my Paratrooper tree

[Ninja Prime]

Originally posted by vampireuk
Isn't there a slight difference between oil and troop benefits? Or do you folks from the right just see troops as natural expendable resources?

Excuse me I'm off to my Paratrooper tree

Umm... WTF? I think you are confused as to what I was responding to...

[UDawg]

Originally posted by vampireuk
Isn't there a slight difference between oil and troop benefits? Or do you folks from the right just see troops as natural expendable resources?

Excuse me I'm off to my Paratrooper tree

Clinton sent our troops on more missions than any president in history. Talk about using the military as a toy. Yet the missions he sent them on did nothing.

Meals on wheels anyone?

[sbp]

With apologies to Brock Lesnar: here comes the bellyaching. http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/aningrin.gif

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20031128-103216-4765r.htm"This is a president who has been unwilling to provide his presence to the families who have suffered, but thinks nothing of flying to Baghdad to use the troops there as a prop," said Joe Lockhart, former spokesman for President Clinton.

"The trip highlights how insecure Iraq is and shows how we need to get our allies in to get the American face off the occupation," said Jamal Simmons, a spokesman for Democratic candidate Wesley Clark, a retired Army general.blah blah blah. How they going to justify sniping GWB, while smiling about Senator Hillary Clinton in Afghanistan and Iraq? Oh I know. "Bush just did that trip to overshadow Hillary!" :angel2:

And surely Saint Hillary's trip was done for purely for altruistic reasons....right? http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/dodgy3.gif

[UDawg]

Dean's reaction to Bush going to Iraq.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20031124/capt.sge.hvh28.241103070028.photo00.default-384x235.jpg
DAMN IT, HE IS TEH COOL!!!

Tricky Dick's reaction
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031115/capt.dcn11011152234.gephardt_iowa_dcn110.jpg
Whadya' gonna do?

[PsychoSy]

Originally posted by UDawg
Selection process!? THERE IS NO ONE ELSE WHO IS SPECIFICALY DOES THIS AND NO ONE ELSE WHO IS AS QUALIFIED. The left's focus on this is just childesh and a distraction from the real issues. I just can't get over how how silly this whole Halliburton cry fest is with the left. Many democrats say the process in which a specialty company like Halliburton was chosen is typical considering their SPECIALTY.

I can't believe how dense you are to assume Halliburton has absolutely no competition whatsoever in that lovely FREE MARKET you Republican schlepps keep preaching about! :rolleyes:

Bob Grace is president of GSM Consulting, a small company in Amarillo, Texas, that has fought oil well fires all over the world. Grace worked for the Kuwait government after the first Gulf War and was in charge of firefighting strategy for the huge Bergan Oil Field, which had more than 300 fires. Last September, when it looked like there might be another Gulf war and more oil well fires, he and a lot of his friends in the industry began contacting the Pentagon and their congressmen.

All we were trying to find out was, who do we present our credentials to,” says Grace. “We just want to be able to go to somebody and say, ‘Hey, here's who we are, and here's what we've done, and here's what we do.’”

“They basically told us that there wasn't going to be any oil well fires.” Grace showed 60 Minutes a letter from the Department of Defense saying: "The department is aware of a broad range of well firefighting capabilities and techniques available. However, we believe it is too early to speculate what might happen in the event that war breaks out in the region." It was dated Dec. 30, 2002, more than a month after the Army Corps of Engineers began talking to Halliburton about putting out oil well fires in Iraq.

So why was Halliburton so special when GSM Consulting (and other firms in direct competition to Halliburton) had done the job in the past in that type of terrain? Qualifications don't mean crap! The TRUTH is simple once you strip all that "Patriotic Correctness" from it - Dick Cheney, who swears up and down repeatedly that he no longer has any ties to Halliburton, has recieved hundreds of thousands of dollars from Halliburton since taking office, therefore, Halliburton's current contracts are nothing more than Cheney returning...a SPECIAL favor...

Change your bong water, yet? :p :angel:

Psychosy was talking about the soldiers losing money not you! :p

Yeah, especially those E-3 or lower ranked grunts that are married with children. You'd think that these Republican goofs would realize by now that slashing their pay just increases the ammount of their entitlements at the welfare office. ;)

Ulp...crap, I shouldn't said THAT! :angel:

Typical partisan morons on the left. That one was more solid than the fog you're trying to grasp with this whole thing.

Yeah, criticizing the Administration in the name of partisan politics is treason, anti-americanism, anti-patriotism yada-yada-yada unless your name is Thomas Dewey!! Oh, wait! He was a Republican, so it's OK I guess...:D

[sbp]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20031124/capt.sge.hvh28.241103070028.photo00.default-384x235.jpg
Well there's something new-Howard Dean is angry. :angel2:

Dean reminds me of some short kid in skool with a chip on the shoulder cause they were short. :bleh: