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saturnotaku
12-23-03, 12:49 PM
This is not a thread to praise or bash Fox News, but this is some personal observation of the local affiliate here in Chicago. While I watch Fox News at 9 for my daily roundup, there are bits where host Walter Jacobsen (who I generally dislike) will interview some people on an issue.

As you might or might not know, the government of Chicago is run by Democrats and has been for some time. And Richard Daley is about as liberal as they come. One of the biggest issues facing the state and specifically my area is the expansion of O'Hare Airport. The incessant noise of planes flying every 90 seconds was what drove my family and me out of the home I grew up in. Now they want to expand the airport to accept hundreds of thousands of more flights per year. Naturally, Daley is all about this while many suburbs are totally against this.

In one piece, Jacobsen interviewed one of the opponents of airport expansion (a suburbanite Republican) and that's the only person he talked to. He didn't talk to anyone from Daley's administration or anyone else. While I am totally against any sort of airport expansion (even though I am now unimpacted by it) in the interest of fairness there should have at least been some comment/statement from the other side. That is after all, what a good reporter is supposed to do. Jacobsen does this all the time, and it just isn't right.

Again, this isn't a forum for bashing Fox News, but this is simply what I've observed looking at the practices of this particular affiliate as a student of journalism.

UDawg
12-23-03, 01:00 PM
You are right they should have both sides of the issue.

Riptide
12-23-03, 01:58 PM
Kinda reminds me of how during the simpson trial CNN would have three defense attorneys on there debating with one prosecutor. Guess which side got more words in and came off as being portrayed as in the right?

digitalwanderer
12-23-03, 02:18 PM
Just to make this clear, I absolutely detest Fox News Chicago. I keep wanting to punch my monitor whenever I have the misfortune to tune into it when I turn on Fox for the Simpsons & That 70s Show every night.

Fox News Chicago = teh major right-wing suckage!

(Oh, and Walter Jacobsen is a pinhead! :p )

1stFlight
12-23-03, 02:44 PM
I have to ask, didn't you family notice there was a large airport in the area when they moved there? O'Hare isn't the sort of thing you can easily miss.

At least someone realizes that Foxnews is horribly biased, under the guise of "Fair and Balanced".

UDawg
12-23-03, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by 1stFlight

At least someone realizes that Foxnews is horribly biased, under the guise of "Fair and Balanced".

Cry me a river.

Riptide
12-23-03, 03:10 PM
/stands by with some hankeys for 1stflight

:)

saturnotaku
12-23-03, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by 1stFlight
I have to ask, didn't you family notice there was a large airport in the area when they moved there? O'Hare isn't the sort of thing you can easily miss.

The house was 15 miles from the airport and they changed the flight/landing patterns. O'Hare is the only airport in the country 1) that is completely landlocked, no water on any side for at least 20 miles and 2) where pilots are allowed to land long and low instead of short and high. It's also a piss-poor runway system where every runway intersects at least one other, it's not like LAX or others where the runways are all parallel and/or running over water. When I was in Vancouver, the plane we left on had to take off over the harbor, then when it reached a high enough altitude go back over land so as to minimize its impact on the surrounding community.

But I'm sure you're still going to believe whatever you want to believe even though you have no clue what hell it was like to live there.

And I recognize that Fox News is biased, just like I recognize that ABC, CNN, NBC and others are as well.

digitalwanderer
12-23-03, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by 1stFlight
I have to ask, didn't you family notice there was a large airport in the area when they moved there? O'Hare isn't the sort of thing you can easily miss.
Unfair. Saturnataku is right, O'hare is changing their landing patterns and approaches all the time and it changes the areas affected by a LOT!

I live 20 mile south of Chicago and in a different state, and I've been noticing a huge change in the air traffic just since 9/11...not to mention over the last 30 years or so in general!

(BTW-I'm a propent of the 3rd airport theory and want it stuck somewhere out far in the western suburbs. :p )

Walter is still a pinhead though. He was a pinhead on CBS(2), I think he had a brief WGN(9) pinheadhood, and he's an even bigger pinhead on FOX(6) now.

sbp
12-23-03, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by 1stFlight
I have to ask, didn't you family notice there was a large airport in the area when they moved there? O'Hare isn't the sort of thing you can easily miss.

At least someone realizes that Foxnews is horribly biased, under the guise of "Fair and Balanced". Indeed CNN is "The Most Trusted Name In News". http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/grinno.gif And the NY Times has "All The News That's Fit to Print." :rofl

That's why I read America's newspaper, The Washington Times. And you should too! http://www.americasnewspaper.com/ :thumbsup:
Might help you expand your viewpoints and reduce that nasty case of leftwing tunnel vision. :p

digitalwanderer
12-23-03, 03:54 PM
The Drudge Report & MSNBC's "Hardball with Chris Mathews" are about all the news a body needs anymore. :cool: :p

UDawg
12-23-03, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by digitalwanderer
The Drudge Report & MSNBC's "Hardball with Chris Mathews" are about all the news a body needs anymore. :cool: :p

...but Drudge is a right winger. :p Mathews is a twit.

digitalwanderer
12-23-03, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by UDawg
...but Drudge is a right winger. :p Mathews is a twit.
Drudge might be a right winger, but damned if he ain't the first with about every bit of juicy news around and he's usually right.

Chris Mathews is a news G O D ! :eek:

1stFlight
12-23-03, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by sbp
Indeed CNN is "The Most Trusted Name In News". http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/grinno.gif And the NY Times has "All The News That's Fit to Print." :rofl

That's why I read America's newspaper, The Washington Times. And you should too! http://www.americasnewspaper.com/ :thumbsup:
Might help you expand your viewpoints and reduce that nasty case of leftwing tunnel vision. :p

Umm, you're being sarcastic right???

1stFlight
12-26-03, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by saturnotaku
The house was 15 miles from the airport and they changed the flight/landing patterns. O'Hare is the only airport in the country 1) that is completely landlocked, no water on any side for at least 20 miles and 2) where pilots are allowed to land long and low instead of short and high. It's also a piss-poor runway system where every runway intersects at least one other, it's not like LAX or others where the runways are all parallel and/or running over water. When I was in Vancouver, the plane we left on had to take off over the harbor, then when it reached a high enough altitude go back over land so as to minimize its impact on the surrounding community.

But I'm sure you're still going to believe whatever you want to believe even though you have no clue what hell it was like to live there.

And I recognize that Fox News is biased, just like I recognize that ABC, CNN, NBC and others are as well.

As a former student pilot, I'd like to mention that the intersecting runway system allows a pilot to land easily irregardless of wind direction. It's far from a piss poor design. It maximizes the number of take-offs and landings one can have. Which makes great sense capitalistically speaking.

Btw, I just enjoyed a rather pleasant flight into O'Hare over the holiday, the landing was great :)

digitalwanderer
12-26-03, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by 1stFlight
Btw, I just enjoyed a rather pleasant flight into O'Hare over the holiday, the landing was great :)
Welcome to Chicago! Where are you staying over the holidays, you're in my neck of the woods now. :cool:

1stFlight
12-26-03, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by digitalwanderer
Welcome to Chicago! Where are you staying over the holidays, you're in my neck of the woods now. :cool:

Sent ya a pm! :)