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UDawg
01-30-04, 12:23 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,109939,00.html

Friday, January 30, 2004

ATLANTA — The state's school superintendent has proposed striking the word evolution (search) from Georgia's science curriculum and replacing it with the phrase "biological changes over time." LMAO!!!



The change, which drew criticism from both liberals and conservatives, is included in more than 800 pages of draft revisions to Georgia's curriculum that have been posted by the Department of Education on its Web site. The middle and high school standards are expected to be voted on by the state Board of Education in May, after public comments.

Superintendent Kathy Cox said the concept of evolution would still be taught under the proposal, but the word would not be used in the curriculum. The proposal would not require schools to buy new textbooks omitting the word evolution and would not prevent teachers from using it.

Cox, a Republican elected to the post in 2002, repeatedly referred to evolution as a "buzzword" Thursday and said the ban was proposed, in part, to alleviate pressure on teachers in socially conservative areas where parents object to its teaching.

"If teachers across this state, parents across this state say, 'This is not what we want,' then we'll change it," Cox said.

Educators and legislators criticized the proposal, saying science teachers understand the theories behind evolution and how to teach them.

"Here we are, saying we have to improve standards and improve education, and we're just throwing a bone to the conservatives with total disregard to what scientists say," said state Rep. Bob Holmes, a Democrat.

Former President Jimmy Carter (search) had harsh words for the change on Friday, calling it an embarrassment and saying it exposes the state to nationwide ridicule.

"As a Christian, a trained engineer and scientist, and a professor at Emory University (search), I am embarrassed by Superintendent Kathy Cox's attempt to censor and distort the education of Georgia's students," Carter said in a statement.

Social conservatives who prefer religious creation to be taught instead of evolution criticized the proposal as well.

"If you're teaching the concept without the word, what's the point?" said Rep. Bobby Franklin, a Republican. "It's stupid. It's like teaching gravity without using the word gravity."

Carter, a Baptist and Democrat who had served as Georgia governor before he was elected president in 1976, said that existing references to evolution in Georgia's curriculum have done nothing to damage religious faith in the state.

Cox spokesman Kirk Englehardt said the superintendent was reviewing Carter's statement Friday morning and did not have an immediate response.


Oh I feel much better now. :rolleyes: What a stupid waste of time. This is why my son is in private school.

You know people always shorten words like this. I say just call it Evo. :p

Sazar
01-30-04, 12:32 PM
this defies logic...

:confused:

btw. I like evo... I'm with you on that...

digitalwanderer
01-30-04, 01:20 PM
I ain't in for private schools as I happen to live in a town with an excellent public school system, but if someone were to try and pull that in a school my kid was in I'd be getting out my clue-by-four and start banging some sense into people!

PsychoSy
01-30-04, 01:39 PM
Mr. Cox needs a dictionary ... perhaps a thesaurus, too! :angel:

Sazar
01-30-04, 01:42 PM
I fail to understand why evolution is considered such a big problem for conservatives :confused:

digitalwanderer
01-30-04, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by PsychoSy
Mr. Cox needs a dictionary ... perhaps a thesaurus, too! :angel:
He needs a severe working over with a clue-by-four more than anything else! :mad:

UDawg
01-30-04, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Sazar
I fail to understand why evolution is considered such a big problem for conservatives :confused:

I don't have a problem with it. I think it is wrong but hey if they want to teach it as another idea then I have no objections, just as long as intelligent design is also taught. It is the other major idea but the left wants it to be left out all together.

Sazar
01-30-04, 02:17 PM
um KATHY COX does not sound like a mr... but that's just me :rofl

Saint Lucifer
01-30-04, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by Sazar
I fail to understand why evolution is considered such a big problem for conservatives :confused:
People are just too easily offended. But not to worry, some day people will evolve thicker skin... or biologically develop it over time. Something.

digitalwanderer
01-30-04, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Saint Lucifer
People are just too easily offended. But not to worry, some day people will evolve thicker skin... or biologically develop it over time. Something.
Blasphemer!

Jesus will give it to us, duh! :rolleyes:

Saint Lucifer
01-30-04, 02:30 PM
Let us not forget that it was also Jesus who gave us herpes.

Ninja Prime
01-30-04, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by Saint Lucifer
Let us not forget that it was also Jesus who gave us herpes.

Actually I think that was whoever you sleep with that had herpes. ;)

UDawg
01-30-04, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by Saint Lucifer
Let us not forget that it was also Jesus who gave us herpes.

Now, If I said anything about Allah like that I would get a rash of hate posts. Your post is not cool one bit. I don't care how funny you thought it would be.

vampireuk
01-30-04, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Ninja Prime
Actually I think that was whoever you sleep with that had herpes. ;)

:rofl

Yeah lets keep jesus bashing out of this thread, how could anyone this cheerful do any harm?

http://store2.yimg.com/I/jsbstash_1771_6871171
:D

Saint Lucifer
01-30-04, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by UDawg
Now, If I said anything about Allah like that I would get a rash of hate posts.There's always a chance I'll get hate posts, too.
Your post is not cool one bit. I don't care how funny you thought it would be. If God/Jesus are omnipotent, then they are the cause of all that is bad, just as they are the cause of all that is good. Using religious logic, of course.

Either way, Ninja Prime wasn't upset - or didn't appear to be. It seems he's able to take a joke. How fitting this is after I said that one day people would evolve thicker skin.

UDawg
01-30-04, 04:14 PM
I am not Nina Prime and I don't care if he was offended or not. With all my faults I am a committed Christian and did not appriciate your post.

Your twisting of the bible is not worth rebutting. I think it is best to drop this issue.

Riptide
01-30-04, 04:30 PM
IMO, joking about religion is in poor taste. There is always the possiblity those words could come back to haunt you some day if the believers are right and you are wrong. This is coming from an agnostic.

For those of us who admit we don't have all the answers it is perhaps best to tread lightly. :)

bigC
01-30-04, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by Sazar
I fail to understand why evolution is considered such a big problem for conservatives :confused: doh. i was going to say something like "only the religious right has problems with the concept of evolution" but then i scrolled down and saw/read the other posts and decided not to say anything at all. besdies, "biological changes over time" is just a long winded way of saying evolution. couldn't he create a different euphemism? :lol:

druga runda
01-30-04, 04:59 PM
And soon it will be known as BCOT :afro:

1stFlight
01-30-04, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by Saint Lucifer
There's always a chance I'll get hate posts, too.
If God/Jesus are omnipotent, then they are the cause of all that is bad, just as they are the cause of all that is good. Using religious logic, of course.

Either way, Ninja Prime wasn't upset - or didn't appear to be. It seems he's able to take a joke. How fitting this is after I said that one day people would evolve thicker skin.

Saint your post was hysterical! Too many religious people fail to realize the duality of God. God said himself, that he's "fair". Guess some just take from the bible what they want, rather than what's there.

This from an Agnostic as well.

DaveW
01-31-04, 11:31 AM
Thats it. I'm moving back to England by the time my son is old enough to go to high school.