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Nv40
01-30-04, 06:54 PM
Medal of Honor:Pacific Assault physics videos.. very impressive stuff..
Water with ripples and nice looking reflections ,and Characters ragdolls animations ,
very detailed jungles ,and many other cool techniques and effects.. Havok physics its used heavily in this game too.. its great to see that advanced physics engines will be the standar in all games.. Hl2 .MOH:PA ,Painkiller are just some examples of games using Havok Physics engine.. other games using their own engine.

for the people that still have not seen MOH:PA videos ,here is a link..
the "nature" demo shows heavy uses of physics..

http://www.3dgamers.com/games/medalofhonor2/

stncttr908
01-30-04, 07:11 PM
Very nice. It looks like I'm going to really get wrapped up in this one based upon the characters movie, considering my love of WWII.

Too bad it's EA, who at their current rate will have us paying for patches soon. :afro:

nin_fragile14
01-31-04, 01:09 AM
That looks really good. And even if EA suffers sometimes in the patch department, they're pretty adamant about getting their games out on time.

-=DVS=-
01-31-04, 01:15 AM
Bah games have still far to go , physics are good , but noone of them give you ability to destroy walls ;)

Red Faction was one of its kind , offcourse its outdated by todays standarts but you could destroy walls/ floors enviroment takes real damage not just some paint job :rolleyes:

Ninja Prime
01-31-04, 01:47 AM
I had my fill of World War 2 shooters about 10 games ago.

demonized
01-31-04, 08:35 AM
OMFG. the third video "characters'' is amazing. If they can pull off that much detail in each soldiers faces, I'll buy the game even if its not that great. :)

DivotMaker
01-31-04, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by stncttr908
Too bad it's EA, who at their current rate will have us paying for patches soon. :afro:

Curious...where do you come up with such an accusation?

Edge
01-31-04, 11:32 AM
It's not exactly difficult to add physics into a game anymore, all you have to do is hand over a lump of change to the developers of Havok and magicly you have ragdoll effects and objects that react realisticly. I don't think I'll be impressed by physics again as much as I was by Trespasser in 1998, though Half-life 2 at E3 2003 is pretty close. I'm still impressed when I see the effect, but it seems like developers are just adding cheap flairs to a game for the sole purpose of wowing people rather than for gameplay reasons.

Oh, and DVS, I think an Xbox game called Otogi has a bit of that geometry deformation feature. You can hit enemies into the ground and they'll leave a nice crator if you hit them hard enough. Not quite up to Geo-mod quality, but hey, we're getting back up there. But I think a Red Faction 3 with Havok physics would be pretty cool.

stncttr908
01-31-04, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by BigBerthaEA
Curious...where do you come up with such an accusation? That was probably a very careless comment of me. I suppose I'm just bitter about EA putting expansion after expansion out for games (such as Allied Assault) when other companies offer free addons, such as new levels or at least a few multiplayer maps. I must say that in the interim between Allied Assault and the Spearhead expansion, I loved to play the MOHAA objective based maps, but grew tired of the same ones over and over again. A few single player missions and some new maps doesn't justify another $24.99 out of our pockets is all I'm saying.I had my fill of World War 2 shooters about 10 games ago.Maybe so, but this is really the first big production PC game that involes the Pacific Theater on such a level. Sure there was the 2nd Deadly Dozen game, but in all fairness I think it's pretty safe the say that Pacific Assault will blow it away. It's a new theater with a completely different environment.

DivotMaker
01-31-04, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by digitalwanderer
"My golfer still vanishes everytime I swing...", singsongs the Dig mirthfully and with a friendly wink at BB.

Sorry to hear about that Dig, but the only way for that to happen is to enable AA and use 3-click. Since the majority of users do not use either 3-click swing nor AA, then the bug is obscure. I personally find AA completely unnecessary in TW2004 at 1280x1024x32 and higher.

That being said, I agree it should have been fixed and I complained loudly about that. In looking at the patch for TW2004, EA did a great deal more good than bad especially for ATI users.

digitalwanderer
01-31-04, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by BigBerthaEA
Sorry to hear about that Dig, but the only way for that to happen is to enable AA and use 3-click. Since the majority of users do not use either 3-click swing nor AA, then the bug is obscure. I personally find AA completely unnecessary in TW2004 at 1280x1024x32 and higher.

That being said, I agree it should have been fixed and I complained loudly about that. In looking at the patch for TW2004, EA did a great deal more good than bad especially for ATI users.
Weirdest thing, I picked up a copy of TW2002 from a bargain bin and it has the EXACT same problem as 2004 with the golfer disapearing with AA on using 3 click. :lol:

Sorry, I'm old school. 3 click is how I learned to play virtual golf and it's what I'm best at with it. :)

GlowStick
01-31-04, 07:27 PM
This game dose look pritty cool, probly the first MOH id buy (im not a fan of wwII shooters) however since hl2 and this game uses the same engine, i bet the physics are the same heh, then again i guess they could implment it diffrently.

DivotMaker
01-31-04, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by digitalwanderer
Weirdest thing, I picked up a copy of TW2002 from a bargain bin and it has the EXACT same problem as 2004 with the golfer disapearing with AA on using 3 click. :lol:

Sorry, I'm old school. 3 click is how I learned to play virtual golf and it's what I'm best at with it. :)

I hate to say it but TW2002 is probably one of the worst Tiger releases ever. I am surprised you even got it to run.

I am telling you that if you take the tutorials for TrueSwing and get to know how to use the swing, you will throw stones at 3-click. I won $10,000 playing 3-click in TW99 and ever since TW came out with TrueSwing, 3-click just does not reproduce a golf swing by any stretch of the imagination. The one key factor that 3-click is missing is feel and tempo. You cannot get that in a swing meter but you can get it in spades with TrueSwing. 3-click is old school, but it's time has seen better days. You can also run AA to your hearts content using TrueSwing....

Nutty
01-31-04, 08:21 PM
How the hell does enabling AA affect game logic? Or make objects dissapear?

digitalwanderer
01-31-04, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Nutty
How the hell does enabling AA affect game logic? Or make objects dissapear?
It doesn't affect game logic, I think it has something to do with the 3-clicky meter-thing that comes up and how that is affected/affects the AA which it masks the golfer.

Like it's an overlay with the clicky meter on it and the invisible part of it covers up the golfer when it's on the screen or makes the rest of the screen disapear.

Like BB said, it's a glitch and a longshot/oddball one at that....but it's annoying to me personally and the way I prefer to play so I like to tease him about it from time to time. ;)

Shaitan
02-01-04, 08:59 AM
Too bad it is yet another ww2 game. Sick of em. And quite frankly, I don`t relate to the time period. A Nam game I can relate to as it was going on when I was a kid. I like the style better, and the jungle type of warfare. Not to mentiuon the M16 is alot sexier a weap than anything we could get in ww2. LOL

Edge
02-01-04, 09:20 AM
Actually, it does look very generic in it's use of havok physics. The water looks very nice, but notice on the bridge when he throws the grenade, it takes out all the supports, but half the bridge is still up, in mid-air, just floating there. *sigh*, I wish a game would use REAL physics where taking out the supports of an object would cause it to come down, or where "linked" objects affect eachother, rather than every box and wooden plank seemingly not being connected to anything (I mean seriously, did they forget to nail down those wooden boards? They should shoot the construction company for such shoddy work).

digitalwanderer
02-01-04, 10:17 AM
I just started playing MP2 again last night, (on Blue and it's surprising the hell out of me how well it's playing on Blue! Damn near as good as on Bubbles! :eek: ), and I'm noticing a whole lot more of those arranged physics demonstrations and I like 'em. :)

The books lined up like dominos, the boxes gratuitously stacked up for you to jump thru, the huge pile of chairs just waiting for a grenade...it's just too fun and too well done! :D

SH0DAN
02-03-04, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by Ninja Prime
I had my fill of World War 2 shooters about 10 games ago.


here here !!

stncttr908
02-03-04, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by Ninja Prime
I had my fill of World War 2 shooters about 10 games ago. I bet a lot of the people who make this comment are the same people whom have played Madden for the past 12 years, or various Mario games for the past two decades plus.

sytaylor
02-03-04, 02:29 PM
anyone got a fast mirror? 6k/sec is hell

Ady
02-06-04, 11:44 AM
I'll be getting this game once it arrives. I'm interested in WWII stuff, and this is a game that is set a bit closer to my part of the world. :)

I don't see anything good about the physics in those videos though. It looks quite fake and rather silly in places. It doesn't even come close to what we saw with HL2.

SH0DAN
02-06-04, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by stncttr908
I bet a lot of the people who make this comment are the same people whom have played Madden for the past 12 years, or various Mario games for the past two decades plus.



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never played a pc sports title in my pc gaming life.my fave title is System Shock 2.#2 would be Planescape:Torment,following that #3,Grim
Fandango.Madden and the like,are for people without opposing thumbs(just my opinion of course)why play a football game,when you can get out of your chair,and grab a real ball,and get some friends together and play the real game out in the fresh air.i believe its called the outdoors.what is
even more ironic is this;i would wager that many of the people who say
they like "playing" these "games would dodge a draft faster
then you or i can say the word....

SH0DAN
02-06-04, 10:52 PM
Poontang meter: --|---------------- :(



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S.I.N
02-06-04, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by SH0DAN
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never played a pc sports title in my pc gaming life.my fave title is System Shock 2.#2 would be Planescape:Torment,following that #3,Grim
Fandango.Madden and the like,are for people without opposing thumbs(just my opinion of course)why play a football game,when you can get out of your chair,and grab a real ball,and get some friends together and play the real game out in the fresh air.i belive its called the outdoors.what is
even more ironic is is this;i would wager that many of the people who say
they like "playing" these "games would dodge a draft faster
then you or i can say the word....

Playing games like that I think are meant to take you away......not many want to really run around killing people. Also I know you where not talking to me but I had severe asthma when I was young and really couldnt run around playing football or baseball which I loved or I would drop dead so I did the next best think....I played the video games. But in anycase, games are for fun man get with it. And System Shock even though great is not that different from any other shooter and fans of it would die to get another one out.:)