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poursoul
02-06-04, 05:31 PM
UT2004 Demo to be released VERY soon, Within 1 week.

hopefully.

Read about it here (http://www.beyondunreal.com/).

Weekend Demo Release Unlikely
by RaptoR at 12:00 AM EST (Unreal Tournament 2004) [ 39 Comments ] #4801
Atari's Kyle 'Pezman' Peschel hopped into #UT on the EnterTheGame IRC network on Wednesday evening, and answered a couple of demo-related questions, confirming that the UT2004 demo won't appear this Friday as some had hoped.

«Catzenjaeger» friday pez?
«Pezman[ATARI]» no
«Pezman[ATARI]» probably further out than that

Later, Epic's Joe 'DrSiN' Wilcox posted on the official forums stating that he was fairly certain that the demo would not be making an appearence this weekend.

StarWars: yeh, i confirmation would be nice, if theres no demo this weekend i might work on my real life social skills

DrSiN: I would say it's fairly safe to think it's ok to get out and work on your social skills or take a relaxing weekend before the Chaos...

That leaves Monday 9th to Thursday 12th as far as possible demo dates go. Hone your psychic skills again and vote in our updated BU Demo Poll, telling us when you think the demo will arrive.

More info here (http://www.fasterfiles.com/demo.php).

On release we will be distributing the demo primarily through BitTorrent* for users of broadband and over. This will not be inconvenient if you install a client. Several options are below. This method is unsuitable for modem users, and a direct download link will be available capped at ISDN speed.

So Bittorrent Ehh.

GET YOU TRIGGER FINGERS READY!!!

stncttr908
02-06-04, 05:39 PM
I hope that the addition of vehicles make this one a winner. After seeing what UTXMP can do with them, I must say I have lofty expectations.

Edge
02-06-04, 11:25 PM
On release we will be distributing the demo primarily through BitTorrent* for users of broadband and over. This will not be inconvenient if you install a client. Several options are below. This method is unsuitable for modem users, and a direct download link will be available capped at ISDN speed.

Great, the game isn't even out and I'm already getting shafted. Oh well, I'll just grab a direct download once it's availible, or get it from a friend. Though I'm really not expecting to be that impressed, I didn't like UT2003 much. Though Unreal 2 XMP was suprisingly fun, so I'll have to see.

Chalnoth
02-07-04, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by Edge
Great, the game isn't even out and I'm already getting shafted.
Why?

a direct download link will be available capped at ISDN speed.
If you use a modem, that should be more than enough.

Nutty
02-07-04, 05:13 AM
Bit torrent release should be quite good. On a well seeded file I can max my 1Mbit connection easily.

Better than waiting for hours on WaitPlanet anyway! :D

Chalnoth
02-07-04, 05:30 AM
Once upon a time, Fileplanet was actually decent for downloading. Now it just blows.

Razor04
02-07-04, 09:31 AM
I must say that I too am a little ticked off about it being released primarily through BT. Not everyone has access to BT easily and in these cases a direct download is much much easier. In my case BT has been lumped in with P2P sharing on the PacketShaper. Basically you can't even use BT as the speeds you get are next to none (we're talking 1-2 k/s if that). I am hoping that someone off campus will grab it quickly and throw it on the campus DC hub though (Nothing like 5-6MB/s transfers from across campus). If this doesn't happen though I will be penalized speed wise because of their decision. Guess I will just have to hope and pray that I can get my hands on it through alternative channels.

stncttr908
02-07-04, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Razor04
I must say that I too am a little ticked off about it being released primarily through BT. Not everyone has access to BT easily and in these cases a direct download is much much easier. In my case BT has been lumped in with P2P sharing on the PacketShaper. Basically you can't even use BT as the speeds you get are next to none (we're talking 1-2 k/s if that). I am hoping that someone off campus will grab it quickly and throw it on the campus DC hub though (Nothing like 5-6MB/s transfers from across campus). If this doesn't happen though I will be penalized speed wise because of their decision. Guess I will just have to hope and pray that I can get my hands on it through alternative channels. No BT for me at school, but we do have a lovely DC hub like you mentioned. I suppose that's my only option in this case. :rolleyes:

poursoul
02-07-04, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by stncttr908
No BT for me at school, but we do have a lovely DC hub like you mentioned. I suppose that's my only option in this case. :rolleyes:

Then just drop out.

Get a job, a one room cramped apartment, and dsl. Everything in life is so simple when it's not yourself that you're talking to.

stncttr908
02-07-04, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by poursoul
Then just drop out.

Get a job, a one room cramped apartment, and dsl. Everything in life is so simple when it's not yourself that you're talking to. What the hell are you talking about? I'm merely commenting on the fact that releasing a demo across a torrent isn't the best way to get it distributed, that's all.

Seriously, what is your problem.

Nutty
02-07-04, 01:23 PM
I dunno I think its quite good. I remember when the last Unreal Tournament demo got released, servers all over the net got hammered soo hard it was almost impossible to get hold of it. I ended up paying fileplanet just to download it quick before the weekend was out.

Edge
02-07-04, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by Chalnoth
If you use a modem, that should be more than enough.

Yeah, IF they make it availible at the same time as the torrent and IF it doesn't get overloaded with requests (even at ISDN speed, how long do you think it will take for servers to be overloaded?). Not to mention at ISDN speed, that means it's going to take other people a much longer time to finish their downloads, and that leads to more people downloading it at once, which may lead to more unstable servers. I wonder how much effort they're even putting into the direct download servers. Oh well, I'll probably have to grab it from a friend at the next lan anyway.

poursoul
02-07-04, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by stncttr908
What the hell are you talking about? I'm merely commenting on the fact that releasing a demo across a torrent isn't the best way to get it distributed, that's all.

Seriously, what is your problem.

WHOAH there partner, i've been told that i have no sarcastic tone.... but come on, i don't see how you took that seriously.

you under a lot of pressure lately?

guess i should have added a :p : \

Malfunction
02-07-04, 02:22 PM
I dunno why anyone is complaining about it anyways. BT will be faster and the likes of GS and FS will get it just as easily for the others who don't have the ability to access BT.

I swear, I think people complain just to pass the time...lol. :rolleyes:

The only draw back (Like there is one), is that those who have access to BT will get it slightly faster. Those who can't access BT should see increased bandwidth on GS and FS since the others who can access BT will be there.

Win/Win I think... but lets just bitch about it instead.. huff! :D

Peace,

:afro:

demonized
02-07-04, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Razor04
I must say that I too am a little ticked off about it being released primarily through BT. Not everyone has access to BT easily and in these cases a direct download is much much easier. In my case BT has been lumped in with P2P sharing on the PacketShaper. Basically you can't even use BT as the speeds you get are next to none (we're talking 1-2 k/s if that). I am hoping that someone off campus will grab it quickly and throw it on the campus DC hub though (Nothing like 5-6MB/s transfers from across campus). If this doesn't happen though I will be penalized speed wise because of their decision. Guess I will just have to hope and pray that I can get my hands on it through alternative channels.



Thats the speed you get when your using a router or a firewall and have ports 6881-6991 blocked. That's also the case if whatever your downloading has been released a long time ago, and there's not much sources. BT is great for spreading files quickly.

Razor04
02-07-04, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by demonized
Thats the speed you get when your using a router or a firewall and have ports 6881-6991 blocked. That's also the case if whatever your downloading has been released a long time ago, and there's not much sources. BT is great for spreading files quickly.
You also get that when you are packetshaped. I agree that BT is great, but not everyone can use it. I think they aren't going to reach one of their target audiences because of this decision. A lot of colleges have either blocked the ports completely or packetshaped it to hell and I would imagine college students are right in the middle of one of the age ranges they are targetting.

For those of us in this situation their is nothing we can really do except hope that it pops up elsewhere or ask for people that aren't on campus to help. On my campus specifically the total bandwidth allotted for all P2P programs is 512kbit on a T3. When you add in the fact that other students are sharing that tiny little pipe too it becomes useless...which is the whole intent of packetshaping.

Chalnoth
02-07-04, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by Razor04
For those of us in this situation their is nothing we can really do except hope that it pops up elsewhere or ask for people that aren't on campus to help. On my campus specifically the total bandwidth allotted for all P2P programs is 512kbit on a T3. When you add in the fact that other students are sharing that tiny little pipe too it becomes useless...which is the whole intent of packetshaping.
Heh. I remember those days. All was fixed when I moved out of the dorms. Heck, it was even cheaper. Besides, you realize you're just whining about an hour or two you're not going to be able to play? Come on.

stncttr908
02-07-04, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by poursoul
WHOAH there partner, i've been told that i have no sarcastic tone.... but come on, i don't see how you took that seriously.

you under a lot of pressure lately?

guess i should have added a :p : \ Yes! Emoticons make Internet Message Boards workable! :D

Sorry, my day hadn't been going too well at that point.

UDawg
02-09-04, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by Chalnoth
Once upon a time, Fileplanet was actually decent for downloading. Now it just blows.

Ya, LOL back when MPlayer err I mean MLagger was still up and running. Now I avoid FilePlanet like the plague. I miss the days when FilePlanet wasn't well known. Now they are the friggin' M$ for files. BOOOOO BOOOOO HSSSSSS HSSSSSSSSS

stncttr908
02-09-04, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by UDawg
Ya, LOL back when MPlayer err I mean MLagger was still up and running. Now I avoid FilePlanet like the plague. I miss the days when FilePlanet wasn't well known. Now they are the friggin' M$ for files. BOOOOO BOOOOO HSSSSSS HSSSSSSSSS It's amazing that they even keep a user base. I go to www.3dgamers.com to get the filenames for something I'm looking for, and then just hop over to www.filemirrors.com and get it elsewhere.

Basically, anyone that knows this would avoid Fileplanet entirely.

digitalwanderer
02-09-04, 11:06 AM
I dunno, I really like Bit Torrents myself. When something new comes out that's big I always seem to get great download speeds off it using Shareaza.

I've got downloads that have taken me weeks too hunting down some obscure older TV shows and such, but the new stuff usually goes quick like a bunny for me. :)

Edge
02-09-04, 11:36 AM
Actually I still use fileplanet simply because it works for what I need it for. The waiting lines are annoying, but once I get the link all I have to do is copy it into Getright and I never have to worry about it again. And I've had some bad experiences with some other sites, for some reason some webmasters think it's cool to disable download resuming, which really sucks on a 56k with a file that's...well...ANY size, really.

UDawg
02-09-04, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by stncttr908
It's amazing that they even keep a user base. I go to www.3dgamers.com to get the filenames for something I'm looking for, and then just hop over to www.filemirrors.com and get it elsewhere.

Basically, anyone that knows this would avoid Fileplanet entirely.

Yeah that is usually what I do also but 3dgamers is now getting hit hard also because they link to filefront and every one is going there now. I guess we will just have to learn more patients. LOL it is funny when you think about it. We had to be patient when DLing with 56k then when DSL came out we were all happy for a while. Now because of file sizes and the amount of people using broadband now. LOL we are back at 56k patients. Talk about running to stand still. :D

Edge
02-09-04, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by UDawg
We had to be patient when DLing with 56k then when DSL came out we were all happy for a while. Now because of file sizes and the amount of people using broadband now. LOL we are back at 56k patients. Talk about running to stand still. :D

Except for me, I've got the worst of both worlds at 56k speed AND large file sizes :D
Man, downloading a demo in only a few hours...it must be heaven...

|JuiceZ|
02-09-04, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Edge
Except for me, I've got the worst of both worlds at 56k speed AND large file sizes :D
Man, downloading a demo in only a few hours...it must be heaven...

I seriously don't know how you can handle that. I remember back in the day when a large demo was 7 meg, lol.