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Zarich
02-22-04, 12:02 PM
I just can't seem to get past all the ati driver issues I keep reading about. I can just imagine myself fighting these things constantly. So I am seriously considering this evga 5900nu from newegg. Thoughts?

Headbust
02-22-04, 12:06 PM
just remember....100s of thousands of people buy these cards, yet only about 5,000 in total complain about there cards in total around the net. THe average user will always just pop in the cd that came with the card and never usually even look for updated drivers no cares. People that complain about cards are 1% compared to the 99% of the people that have these cards and odnt complain.

Zarich
02-22-04, 12:09 PM
I had a pretty bad experience with the 8500 also. I got it when it first came out and I was constantly fighting this game or that game to work properly.

Clay
02-22-04, 12:44 PM
Headbust is right. There's an old saying along those lines that I can't remember rith now. Anyway, the greater majority of the owners of ATI or NVIDIA video cards don't have the problems you see reported. Remember that there are countless variables at play with any system and "1%" is probably pretty close to those instances where the driver teams weren't able to cover.

In the past two years or so I've owned an ATI 8500LE, ATI AIW 9800Pro, NVIDIA GF4 4800SE, FX 5700U, 5900U and 5950U. I've used all of these extensively with many games and the only card that I had any real driver problems with was the ATI 8500LE in the game Dungeon Siege. There were issues with missing textures (certain polygons of the game models were solid green for example) but if memory serves correct I believe the next driver version fixed this bug.

The 5900nu is a good choice if you want to overclock, chances are you can get it to 5900U speeds. The 5700U is also a great card for the money, as are the ATI cards in the same price point.

Good luck!

saturnotaku
02-22-04, 01:31 PM
For a while ATI was regressing back into its old habits. However, the Catalyst 4.2 set is probably one of the best sets they've released. Good overall image quality and no showstopping bugs.

For $217, I would recommend a 9800 Pro over anything NVIDIA has to offer right now.

Headbust
02-22-04, 01:57 PM
it also should weigh heavily on your decision what games you play the most. I believe we should get away from which card is better for certain reasons and base it only on the engines that each companys cards play better on.

example...nvidias cards are better on quake based engine games(hl,moh ect..ect.)

saturnotaku
02-22-04, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Headbust
example...nvidias cards are better on quake based engine games(hl,moh ect..ect.)

I have to disagree here. Games like GLQuake, Half-Life, Quake 3 all look really darn good and perform great on my 9800 Pro. In Q3 I can play at 1280x1024 with 6x AA and 16x aniso with vsync on and it will always be at my refresh rate.

Zarich
02-22-04, 02:33 PM
The only 9800 pro I could get is a saphire oem for 214. I am a little leary about an oem card. Retail is 229.

Headbust
02-22-04, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by saturnotaku
I have to disagree here. Games like GLQuake, Half-Life, Quake 3 all look really darn good and perform great on my 9800 Pro. In Q3 I can play at 1280x1024 with 6x AA and 16x aniso with vsync on and it will always be at my refresh rate.

i never said that they didnt run good on ati hardware ... My experience and many others has been..99fps on a nvidia card for some reason seems alot smoother than 99fps on a ati card in hl for example.

RobHague
02-22-04, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by Headbust
i never said that they didnt run good on ati hardware ... My experience and many others has been..99fps on a nvidia card for some reason seems alot smoother than 99fps on a ati card in hl for example.

Quake3 is one game that plays better on NV hardware, so i agree with the comments that it depends what you play the most. :)

If your a hardcore Quake3 player than getting an ATI card is a waste of cash, as the 5700ultra runs Quake3 the best in raw FPS thanks to its core speed. :) I guess the 5900 would be best then if you were going to then apply AA but most quake3 fanatics ive seen care more about teh raw fps and chop detail levels down to get the max amount. :)

fallguy
02-22-04, 06:01 PM
I would take the 9800 Pro for the same price over the 5900NU.

Gator
02-22-04, 07:59 PM
the R8500 was a nightmare for a lot of people, including myself. But the R9500 and higher cards by ATI seem to be fine. They resolved a lot of their issues after the R8500 cards. The newest drivers are said to be solid too.

If you can afford a R9800, you'll love it without a doubt. But if you still fear driver issues, you can't go wrong by the FX5900NU ;)

XForce
02-22-04, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Zarich
I just can't seem to get past all the ati driver issues I keep reading about. I can just imagine myself fighting these things constantly. So I am seriously considering this evga 5900nu from newegg. Thoughts?
If you consider getting a NV card, you probably deserve it.

Gator
02-22-04, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by XForce
If you consider getting a NV card, you probably deserve it.

Thank you for thread crapping :rolleyes:

PS - you're on an Nvidia fan site, might not be the best place to say that

:fanboy: (omg)

AlphaWolf
02-22-04, 11:36 PM
Oddly no one has mentioned it yet in this thread, but if you can wait a month it might be worth it.

Even if you cannot afford the bleeding edge cards that will be announced then they will likely have a trickle down effect on the prices.

Blacklash
02-23-04, 12:04 AM
What alpha said, and ignore the trolls,

If you are going to consider getting the NV40 later, I would wait if you are getting a card and not planning on upgrading again for over a year or more I'd get the 9800pro.

If you play alot of NWN plus expansions, Sony online games, EA games, Star Trek, Star Wars etc. You want the 5900, and OC it to near ultra levels.

Me? I am am waiting on the NV40. There's nothing I can't play right now that I want to.

ChrisRay
02-23-04, 12:31 AM
Be Sure to add any Sony Online Entertainment Game, Being better for Nvidia Cards,


Everquest, Lords of Everquest, Star Wars Galaxy...


And willing to bet EQ 2..

cthellis
02-23-04, 12:31 AM
For $217? No, certainly not with the 9800 Pro available through NewEgg for less. I'd recommend the 9800 Pro now that all the 5900 XT/SE's seem to be $185 or more now as well--the big savings that used to be there just isn't now, and the 9800 Pro is one solid card. ^_^

Gator
02-24-04, 07:38 AM
by the way, $217 is a little too much for an FX5900NU. Check out some of these choices instead, starting at $184:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=property&catalog=48&mfrcode=0&propertycodevalue=5199&keywords=&minprice=&maxprice=&description=%20&Order=price

Zarich
02-24-04, 11:44 AM
Those are all xts clocked at 400/700. The one I pointed out is clocked at 400/850.

zoomy942
02-24-04, 12:28 PM
i would wait a bit if you could, if not, over 200 for any 5900 non ultra is a bit much. you should get a 5700NU or a 9600 or something not too expensive and wait for the NV40's