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XAR
03-04-04, 11:09 AM
Hey All,
I've been looking for a while now at GeforceFX(all versions).I'm a Hardcore
Nvidia lover!!!. Just cant afford the 5950 right now :( ....Well anyway. I'm torn between FX5900 128meg or the FX5700 256meg. I'm a heavy FPS player, and with so many upcoming games recommending GeforceFX series
i just want something that runs pretty smooth while not giving up too much eye candy. I'm a huge fan of the Thief Series and with Thief 3 Dark Shadows on the horizon i need the best bang for the buck. If anyone has a suggestion of another FX card I'm also interested.

Thanks,
Xar :confused:

ragejg
03-04-04, 11:12 AM
bang for buck=FX5900

not much bang for buck=5700 256mb

seriously...

:)

saturnotaku
03-04-04, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by XAR
I've been looking for a while now at GeforceFX(all versions).I'm a Hardcore
Nvidia lover!!!.

I was naive like you once. Had nothing but NVIDIA from GeForce2 through GeForce FX. The FX 5900 non-ultra (if you can find one), XT/SE still is a great value, especially if your budget is less than $200.

But don't discount the 9800 Pro, especially since those are right around the $200 mark now. Even games that have NVIDIA's little marketing logo have played just as good if not better on my Radeon (Far Cry, Painkiller and UT2003/4 to name a few).

marqmajere
03-04-04, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by saturnotaku
I was naive like you once. Had nothing but NVIDIA from GeForce2 through GeForce FX. The FX 5900 non-ultra (if you can find one), XT/SE still is a great value, especially if your budget is less than $200.

But don't discount the 9800 Pro, especially since those are right around the $200 mark now. Even games that have NVIDIA's little marketing logo have played just as good if not better on my Radeon (Far Cry, Painkiller and UT2003/4 to name a few).

Don't rip on him just because he wants an nvidia product.:p If that's his choice, then so be it.:) Get the 5900, XAR.

saturnotaku
03-04-04, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by marqmajere
If that's his choice, then so be it.:) Get the 5900, XAR.

If you read past my second sentence, you'll see that I said the 5900 is a good buy. All I'm asking is for people to be open-minded here.

zoomy942
03-04-04, 11:56 AM
if you are stuck on nvidia, go with the geforcext. its a little trooper. get an evga iff you can. they overclock very very well. and like saturn said, dont count out the radeon. its a nice card also. if i wasnt an nvidiot :D i would get one. the 5700 is okay, but the 5900 blows it out of the water. and its only a few bucks more.

fivefeet8
03-04-04, 12:12 PM
If you've waited this long to get an Fx card, wait a bit longer and get the Nv40/R420. It's near the end of the product cycle of the GEforceFx's already. You don't want to upgrade now and realize just how much better a Nv40 is in a few months. Plus, upgrading to an AGP video card now is a little risky considering PCI-E motherboads and video cards are right around the corner.

Gator
03-04-04, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by XAR
...I'm torn between FX5900 128meg or the FX5700 256meg...

FX5900XT is the best deal going, about $185 at http://www.newegg.com

FX5700 non-ultra 256meg is not a bad card, but the 256megs of memory is useless unless you play at resolutions of 1600x1200 or higher with AA/AF maxed out. And since the card really isn't fast enough to hanlde those kind of settings anyway, the extra memory would be practically unused. The FX5700 Ultra is a nice card too, but with price difference of about 15 dollars the FX5900XT makes much more sense since it has 256bit memory bus and the 5700 series only has 128bit memory bus.

Summary: FX5900

Cotita
03-04-04, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by fivefeet8
If you've waited this long to get an Fx card, wait a bit longer and get the Nv40/R420. It's near the end of the product cycle of the GEforceFx's already. You don't want to upgrade now and realize just how much better a Nv40 is in a few months. Plus, upgrading to an AGP video card now is a little risky considering PCI-E motherboads and video cards are right around the corner.

buying agp is not risky at all, no matter if intel replaces all its lineup with pci-xpress, all other chipset makers will continue to offer AGP mobos for at least another year (most probably by early 2006).

even though pci-xpress is faster than AGP, DDR2 400 is slower than DDR400 and DDR2 533 is not much faster either. So people will not upgrade to a new mobo/memory/vidcard/processor until there really is a performance increase worth the extra cost.

zakelwe
03-04-04, 03:13 PM
interesting choice => 5700U with GDDR3 memory ( will it exist ? )
safe cheap choice => 5900 400Mhz 2.8ns memory
wait a while and see => nv40 non ultra .

Regards

Andy

anzak
03-04-04, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by Cotita
buying agp is not risky at all, no matter if intel replaces all its lineup with pci-xpress, all other chipset makers will continue to offer AGP mobos for at least another year (most probably by early 2006).

even though pci-xpress is faster than AGP, DDR2 400 is slower than DDR400 and DDR2 533 is not much faster either. So people will not upgrade to a new mobo/memory/vidcard/processor until there really is a performance increase worth the extra cost.

There are still PCI video cards to this day. Don't fear AGP it's not going away overnight.

Blacklash
03-04-04, 05:04 PM
Honestly I use products from both companies,

I also alternately support each company. I want to see both of them healthy and banging away at each other with price wars and cutting edge tech. Of course in the mean time , we (the consumer) benefit.

If you want an Nvidia product score a 5900XT, MSI or Leadtek IMO. ATI go with the 9800pro. Especially go with the latter if you are not upgrading when the next generation cards are shelved.

XAR
03-04-04, 11:01 PM
I'm in no way putting down ATI They have damn good cards. We have all seen the proof, but... My first 3D-card was a Viper V550 with Q2 and dammit i was hooked!!!!. Sice then all i have owned was Nvidia products, also I feel i know Nvidia cards "better" if you can make sense of that. I understand the drivers, and setting etc...So why change a GOOD THING!
But now that you mention it the NV40 sounds pretty tasty! Just dont know if i can hold out that long.


P.S. NVIDIA ROCKS!!!!!! ;)

Thx,
XAR

john19055
03-04-04, 11:21 PM
I was a big Nvidia fan untill I tried the R9800pro ,but if you want a nvidia card then the 5900Xt would be a good card to go with.

NaturalPlayboy
03-04-04, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by marqmajere
Don't rip on him just because he wants an nvidia product.:p If that's his choice, then so be it.:) Get the 5900, XAR.

Nice Avatar man. I'm a Snatcher fan myself.

NaturalPlayboy
03-04-04, 11:47 PM
Yeah, I have had almost nothing but ATI cards untill recently. I bought a 8500LE, 9700 Pro, and a laptop with a mobility Radeon 9000 in it. But I got kinda pissed when I found out my 9700 Pro is defective. It would run fine untill you try to run any 3D app like a game. Then it would just crash the system. So I decided to migrate to Nvidia. I just ordered a BFG 5950 Ultra. Hopefully it works out for me.

cthellis
03-05-04, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by XAR
So why change a GOOD THING!
Well now, the answer to that is and always will be "to get a better thing." And it's something to pay attention to, as it properly steers the market. ;)

john19055
03-06-04, 12:27 PM
I'm not ragging on him because he wants a Nvidia card ,that was always the card that I would go with because nvidia had never let me down ,but in the case of there last cards they did let me down ,IMO the r9800pro was a better card this time.But if the NV40 comes out and is a better choice then the R420 then I will be buying a NV40 the next time around.

Scott@Bjorn3D
03-06-04, 01:43 PM
5900XT is alot better than 5700.

But if you can wait a couple of months the new family of NV4x will be out and they will have some kick butt midrange cards.

False Christian
03-16-04, 01:17 PM
I'd wait for the NV45 which'll have 16 pixel pipelines and proper-working pixel shader 2.0 and 3.0.

The NV40 was to have an 8x2 architecture but seeing that ATI's R420'll have 12 pixel pipelines nVidia knew that, eventually, they'd be a distant second to ATI so they scrapped the NV40 and are working on the NV45.:beer: