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FastM
03-04-04, 04:53 PM
I'll i can saw right now is wow.

I just upgraded to a A64 3200+ / MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R / 1gig TwinX PC3200LL Corsair.

Replaced my Epox-8RDA+ @ 185FSB / AthlonXP 2100+ @ 2250Mhz / 2x 256meg Kingston Platium 6,2,2,2

On paper it does not look like a huge upgrade, i mean i lost 220 CPU MHZ in the end... but it does not matter one bit. I havent had the system long enough to really comment but after 3-4 hours of gaming last night im more than impressed

Its tough to explain, but all my games are just incredibly smoother at around the same FPS. I mean upped my graphics in CoD and although it drops to 30-40fps sometimes i dont notice it at all, where as before 30-40 was not playable. I dont understand it myself but this thing rocks.

DMA
03-04-04, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by FastM


Its tough to explain, but all my games are just incredibly smoother at around the same FPS.

I upgraded from a XP2500+@2200 MHz to a A64 3200+ and i felt the exact same way. :)
Very fluid and quick. Guess it's the built in memory controller that makes a big difference when it comes to that "responsive" feeling.
Gaming has never been more fun, thats for sure. :bounce:

Sazar
03-04-04, 05:18 PM
welcome aboard :thumbsup:

went from 1900+/msi kt333 to p4 3.0c/msi 865PE neo fisr to the current rig...

-=DVS=-
03-04-04, 05:42 PM
hehe wow we got a club :D

Went from outdated 2400XP+ to sig below :drooling:

Sazar
03-04-04, 06:16 PM
weee... party time :beer:

Gator
03-04-04, 06:59 PM
My father's computer will be in the club in a few days, ordered the goods from Newegg last night and damn I wish it was mine :D.

I'm upgrading him from

PIII 700
512mb PC100 SDRAM
40gb IDE
ATI Rage128 16mb AGP2x

to

Athlon64 3000
1gb DDR400 PC3200
80gig SATA
FX5200Ultra 128mb AGP8x

Talk about a leap in technology! :eek:

|JuiceZ|
03-04-04, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Gator
My father's computer will be in the club in a few days, ordered the goods from Newegg last night and damn I wish it was mine :D.

I'm upgrading him from

PIII 700
512mb PC100 SDRAM
40gb IDE
ATI Rage128 16mb AGP2x

to

Athlon64 3000
1gb DDR400 PC3200
80gig SATA
FX5200Ultra 128mb AGP8x

Talk about a leap in technology! :eek:

LOL! Better watch out, pops 'll have a heart-attack, heh.

I've declined A64 membership for the moment. Waiting for the good stuff :D

Sazar
03-04-04, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by |JuiceZ|
LOL! Better watch out, pops 'll have a heart-attack, heh.

I've declined A64 membership for the moment. Waiting for the good stuff :D

meh.. gatecrasher.. invites only..

/me smacks juicez silly...

begone with thee... :angel:

Dazz
03-05-04, 01:38 AM
Before i commit to 64bit i want the 939sk boards and processors :)

Viral
03-05-04, 01:52 AM
Same here, but the thing is, when i upgrade to that i also want PCI-E, which will mean a new video card, and an expensive one:eek: So you see, it's all linked. Basically i need to start saving. I have the money for the motherboard, that's about it:p

-=DVS=-
03-05-04, 03:12 AM
My perfect PC would be A64 at 2.8 Ghz 4200+ , 939 skt , and PCI-E gameing card :drooling:
but its so far till 2005 :( , current upgrade cost me only 600$ maybe i overpaid a bit , but by time stuff above available i can make another big upgrade :angel:
Next gen Graphic cards better be worth 500+$ for that cash you can get sweet upgrade :eek:

FastM
03-05-04, 06:11 AM
You guys waiting for 939pin, I mean nothing is confirmed but chances are you wont find processors for less than 500-600$. I dunno, its obviously AMD's commercial line with a FX series to carry the flagship, hardly mainstream and i dont see them ever having value prices with that line.

Ninja Prime
03-05-04, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by FastM
I'll i can saw right now is wow.

I just upgraded to a A64 3200+ / MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R / 1gig TwinX PC3200LL Corsair.

Replaced my Epox-8RDA+ @ 185FSB / AthlonXP 2100+ @ 2250Mhz / 2x 256meg Kingston Platium 6,2,2,2

On paper it does not look like a huge upgrade, i mean i lost 220 CPU MHZ in the end... but it does not matter one bit. I havent had the system long enough to really comment but after 3-4 hours of gaming last night im more than impressed

Its tough to explain, but all my games are just incredibly smoother at around the same FPS. I mean upped my graphics in CoD and although it drops to 30-40fps sometimes i dont notice it at all, where as before 30-40 was not playable. I dont understand it myself but this thing rocks.

I just got that exact same set up, same RAM, same proc, same mobo, today... :D

Riptide
03-05-04, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by Viral
Same here, but the thing is, when i upgrade to that i also want PCI-E, which will mean a new video card, and an expensive one:eek: So you see, it's all linked. Basically i need to start saving. I have the money for the motherboard, that's about it:p
That is exactly what I'm doing. I'm saving money and don't intend to upgrade until fall, when I can get into a PCI-E system. The only thing that has me real worried is my SCSI controller. I paid a fair penny for this one and I may end up having to pay an arm and a leg for a first or second generation RAID controller for PCI-E. :(

jAkUp
03-05-04, 09:57 AM
Well, chances are that by fall we still wont have native PCI-E boards. More of a PCI-E/ PCI, where it just has one PCI-E slot for video.

Riptide
03-05-04, 09:59 AM
I should've banked on that I guess. What would *really* be nice from my perspective would be a motherboard that has a PCI-E slot for the graphics card and PCI-X expansion slots for the rest of the peripherals. My RAID controller supports PCI-X so I would be a happy camper then. :)

PCI-X is backwards compatible with PCI32 correct?

Viral
03-05-04, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by FastM
You guys waiting for 939pin, I mean nothing is confirmed but chances are you wont find processors for less than 500-600$. I dunno, its obviously AMD's commercial line with a FX series to carry the flagship, hardly mainstream and i dont see them ever having value prices with that line.

At first it wont be that mainstream, no. The 3500+ will be the lowest speed A64 we will see, and i'm guessing it should cost between $270-$450. But i don't get your point of them 'never having value prices with that line'. The value will eventually be there. Probably by the time the 4200+ comes to town the 3500+ will be in the sub $200 range. S939 is the future of A64, S754 will only go up to 3700+. So S939 will, in terms of price, eventually end up being everything S754 is now and more. S754 will move even lower, but in time it's offerings wont look half as inviting as they do today.

S939 is the new S754, just because it will house FX as well it doesn't mean it will always be some snooty rich person socket:p

-=DVS=-
03-05-04, 10:57 PM
Heh so i was playing Raven Shield online , was happy with my FPS compared to my old AthlonXp difference from 40 (without shadows) to 100+ (with shadows) :drooling: one person ask is it faster then Pentium 4 3Ghz i tell him its like P4 3.2Ghz or so , then the other person yells at me noo its only like 2.4ghz or at best 2.7Ghz Pentium 4 :rolleyes: i was like wow how sad :angel2: for him that is.

Rytr
03-05-04, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by |JuiceZ|
LOL! Better watch out, pops 'll have a heart-attack, heh.

I've declined A64 membership for the moment. Waiting for the good stuff :D


Ahh come on! Be the first on your block! :POKE:

FastM
03-06-04, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by Viral
S939 is the new S754, just because it will house FX as well it doesn't mean it will always be some snooty rich person socket:p

I was actually under the impression that S939 was the new S940 and that it was still going to require Registered Memory. But like everything in this industry time will tell, and for now im just gonna stick to gaming :)

Dazz
03-06-04, 07:50 AM
Yeah i agree as i said b4 i am getting the lowest end 939 processor and nForce 3 250GB, i am getting the A64 3500+ due to it's low clock rate and i want it to run with AT LEAST a 250MHz FSB looking to hit 266MHz myself, 8.5GB/sec bandwith will be amazing :) No the skt 939 does not use ECC memory it uses unbuffered memory. The 1 pin that was removed was for ECC support.

RobHague
03-06-04, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by FastM
I was actually under the impression that S939 was the new S940 and that it was still going to require Registered Memory. But like everything in this industry time will tell, and for now im just gonna stick to gaming :)

Noooo, 939 is going to be the new 'high-performance' platform. The FX line is moving too it (FX5x will come out for 939 and 940 for a few releases i belive then move to 939 fully) and the higher end A64's (3800+ etc) are also moving to S939....

The S940 will carry on with the Opterons... which is fine by me ;)... the S754 isnt going to be phased out for a while either, there is a 3500+ and 3700+ planned for it and im also told that the Athlon XP line is moving over to it. Maybe the AXP will become the new Duron?

The A64's for the Socket 939 will have less L2 cache btw, 512 instead of 1meg.

Oh btw i can't wait for PCI-Express so i can make use of all that extra bandwidth that no graphics card will come close to using up until 2010 ;)...:D

Viral
03-06-04, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by FastM
I was actually under the impression that S939 was the new S940 and that it was still going to require Registered Memory. But like everything in this industry time will tell, and for now im just gonna stick to gaming :)

As has been explained, no S939 processor will require registered memory, this includes the FX's.

AMD never wanted the FX to use registered memory, but they felt to take the performance lead they needed FX right away (before S939), which meant they felt they needed DC memory right away. FX on 940 was just a temporary endeavour so AMD could take the performance crown indefinitely. If they had S939 in time, you can bet we never would have seen a S940 A64 of any kind, and thus never have seen an A64 that required registered memory.

Just an FYI, Opteron has registered memory because of the market it's aimed at. AMD know home users don't usually want stability/reliability over performance (especially when they dont use enough memory to have real stability/reliability problems with non ECC memory) but they had to have FX use it because S940 was the only suitable platform they had for a DC memory processor targetted at high end home users (which they felt they needed).

FastM
03-07-04, 10:08 AM
Okay, its all making a bit more sense now...

Something i heard somewhere was AMD will start releasing non-64bit processers for S754 ? If so, will they still have the integrated memory controller?


Now i understand why your all waiting for S939....... Considering i got my Mobo / Proc and Mem all for under 600$USD i dont feel bad about it.

MUYA
03-07-04, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by FastM
Okay, its all making a bit more sense now...

Something i heard somewhere was AMD will start releasing non-64bit processers for S754 ? If so, will they still have the integrated memory controller?


Now i understand why your all waiting for S939....... Considering i got my Mobo / Proc and Mem all for under 600$USD i dont feel bad about it.

I heard about that too, essentially their are the same core but with the 64 bit extentions disabled or sumat.

Edit: I have found out that the 32bit K8 is codenamed "Paris"

From Overclockers.comFor the low end, we'll see "Paris," which essentially will be a Thoroughbred B with an online memory controller but no x86-64 and just a single-channel memory architecture.