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@#$%!!!!
I am one sad Rollo this evening. After spending ~ 5 hours of my night working on it, I've thrown in the towel and will hopefully be able to get my money back on the Abit 5800.
My experiences with it were mainly inability to get to Windows even, although it did a couple times with so much distortion it was unusable.
This truly saddens me. This card is built like a brick ****house, I had high hopes for using it. :(
I didn't get a chance to do anything with it Rage. It was never functional enough to put a working display on the screen.
You can't even POST with it??
I have an MSI K8T Neo, Athlon 64 3K+, and Antec 430 True Power. My experiences trying to use it in that box:
Uninstall 9800Pro and drivers.
Install 5800, plug in to hard drive power connector. I've had the following results:
1. Sometimes nothing happens, no beeps, black screen.
2. Sometimes it posts it's bios, but the letters are missing pieces and the screen has other anomalies.
3. I actually got it into Windows XP a couple times with much garbage on the screen. Once I was able to try to install the Siluro drivers, it recognized it as a Ti4600. (inspection of the card/chip verify it's a 5800)
Installed Ti4200, no problem, install latest nVidia drivers. Put 5800 back in, repeat of above with exception I never got a usable desktop.
My four year old has a 300W, nForce1, 1700+ rig. I put it in there, no beeps, nothing.
:(
Sounds like the card is dead if it does not work on any PCs.
What kind of PSU do you run as the 300W might not have the juice to run the card.
Sounds like the card is dead if it does not work on any PCs.
What kind of PSU do you run as the 300W might not have the juice to run the card.
It is dead all right. I replaced the 300Watt generic psu with an Antec 350 SmartPower to test it, still would only show garbage on the post screen then die.
So I couldn't make it work with an Asus nForce 1 board/athlon 1700+/Antec 350w Smart Power or a MSI K8T Neo/A64/Antec 430w True Power.
Both setups ran my Ti4200 and R9800P with no problem.
:bs:
photophreak314
03-22-04, 10:25 PM
Why do you want the 5800 to work if you have a 9800 pro? I'm assuming you're just curious and not actually thinking about doing some serious gaming with it. Oh ya, and buy some earplugs if you get it to work. (inv)
saturnotaku
03-22-04, 10:31 PM
Oh ya, and buy some earplugs if you get it to work.
The 5800 non-ultra doesn't have the dustbuster there chief, but thanks for playing our game. :thumbsup:
Why do you want the 5800 to work if you have a 9800 pro? I'm assuming you're just curious and not actually thinking about doing some serious gaming with it. Oh ya, and buy some earplugs if you get it to work. (inv)
Well, I did pay $212.50 for it assuming it worked? I do want to put it in my gaming rig to do "serious gaming" with. I was going to let my 4 year old use my 9800 Pro or sell it.
LOL Saturn, good one.
Although the Abit 5800 has the dustbuster, they engineered it to be quiet, which I can attest it is. ( that works much better than the gpu on the one I got
:dance:
saturnotaku
03-22-04, 11:27 PM
Although the Abit 5800 has the dustbuster, they engineered it to be quiet, which I can attest it is. ( that works much better than the gpu on the one I got
Weird. Every other 5800 non-ultra I've ever seen has a cooling setup that's closer to those found on 5900 Ultra cards. But I read something on the Inq that said something to the effect of Abit engineering a dustbuster cooling solution for the 5800 that was much quieter than what actually ended up on the 5800 Ultra.
Meh, whatever. It's still not the dustbuster, and at least you seem to be thankful for that. ;)
ChrisRay
03-22-04, 11:39 PM
Weird. Every other 5800 non-ultra I've ever seen has a cooling setup that's closer to those found on 5900 Ultra cards. But I read something on the Inq that said something to the effect of Abit engineering a dustbuster cooling solution for the 5800 that was much quieter than what actually ended up on the 5800 Ultra.
Meh, whatever. It's still not the dustbuster, and at least you seem to be thankful for that. ;)
Didnt Abit Create the original otes Cooling Solution?
Didnt Abit Create the original otes Cooling Solution?
Yep. And the rumor is nVidia dissed them with the 5800U and used another company's fan set up and pissed Abit off.
I can verify that the OTES (dustbuster) type fan on the ABIT 5800 is very quiet.
LOL- nVidia probably regrets that one to this day, although, to be fair, the ABIT solution looks like it costs a lot comparatively.
http://www.nordichardware.com/reviews/graphiccard/2003/Abit_FX5800/
Rogozhin
03-23-04, 06:02 PM
You can't RMA it Rollo?
Rogo
Shamrock
03-24-04, 04:14 AM
i thought he bought it off of ebay?
zakelwe
03-24-04, 05:40 AM
Try it with no molex power and then molex power straight from the PSU, not with any other devices on the chain ...any better ?
Regards
Andy
This is a dead issue, I threw the thing away and am acquiring a 5800 Ultra. :super:
BTW I did do straight from the PSU on an Antec 350 and an Antec 430, I tried no molex as well when all else had failed.
damn!!
that's some resolve you got there, rollo!!
:D
damn!!
that's some resolve you got there, rollo!!
I was sick of dealing with the 5800 after having tried it in two boxes multiple times and even replacing the psu in one box. When my wife started an argument with me about ordering another 5800 before this one was a "done deal", I threw it away and said it's a done deal.
did you keep the cooling setup?
or the core?
gawd I'd sure do evil things for an nv30 keychain... :firedevil
hee hee... :p
ChrisRay
03-24-04, 10:21 PM
This is a dead issue, I threw the thing away and am acquiring a 5800 Ultra. :super:
BTW I did do straight from the PSU on an Antec 350 and an Antec 430, I tried no molex as well when all else had failed.
You threw it away or got a replacement with warranty? ack throwing away a card buying another has gotta hurt :banghead:
did I tell yall bout he damn resolve of this mofo? Holy jeezus, he takes one in teh nuts on a goddang nv30 no less, and he sucks that dang gut up and orders his self ANOTHER one o them nv30's!!!
"#%&** BAH!111 J00 shoulda bought 5900XT!! J00 shoulda bought R300!! OMGWTF!'
I say "bah" to those about to post something like the above quote. Good card, good perf., good find, good resolve...
heh, sorry bout teh redneck thing up @ top, I couldn't help it... :p
did you keep the cooling setup?
or the core?
gawd I'd sure do evil things for an nv30 keychain... :firedevil
hee hee... :p
The cooling setup is damaged by me stepping on it, but the core and rest of the board are fine. LOL save it from it's restful slumber in my trash.
did I tell yall bout he damn resolve of this mofo? Holy jeezus, he takes one in teh nuts on a goddang nv30 no less, and he sucks that dang gut up and orders his self ANOTHER one o them nv30's!!!
"#%&** BAH!111 J00 shoulda bought 5900XT!! J00 shoulda bought R300!! OMGWTF!'
I say "bah" to those about to post something like the above quote. Good card, good perf., good find, good resolve...
heh, sorry bout teh redneck thing up @ top, I couldn't help it... :p
LOL way cool Rage. The laugh alone was worth $200..
Actually, the laugh was worth your keychain. Paypal me $10 to cover the shipping and it's yours. I'll include the manual and CDs as memorobilia as well.
:afro:
quik_2_win
03-25-04, 08:08 PM
Sorry to hear about your trouble with the 5800. The 5800Ultra is (still) a very nice card even today, and will likely overclock higher than the vanilla 5800 would have anyway, if you're into that sort of thing :thumbsup: - I hope you get one in good working condition.
-Still has the highest fill-rate (multitexturing) of any video card ever produced! over a year after it's introduction- amazing piece of hardware. Mine will be included in my 'Video Card Museum' when I finally stop playing with it.
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