the wars is on!!!!

[killermmn]

www.nzone.com and www.ati.com
:fanboy:next week is the week!!:fanboy:
but on ati is more mysterious!!
cant wait!!

[-=DVS=-]

mehh its probably only paper launch for both several more weeks of waiting untill we can buy one :(

[GlowStick]

Yeah, it seems its all going down next week.

However, i havent seen anything officals about ati's date, but people are saying the 13th also.

[Evildeus]

mehh its probably only paper launch for both several more weeks of waiting untill we can buy one :(No, we will see some bench for the NV40 on the launch date (not made by Nv ;)).

[Geforce4ti4200]

No, we will see some bench for the NV40 on the launch date (not made by Nv ;)).


If any reviewer happens to have some engineering samples by that time

[-=DVS=-]

No, we will see some bench for the NV40 on the launch date (not made by Nv ;)).
True lets hope so i realy want some real reviews after months of rumor speculation and fake information :p , one problem thought as long as card is not available to buy reviews can be bias as always:(

[retsam]

well one thing is for sure we know that there are real operating boards out in the wild ....so there is very little reason to doubt that there will be not be reviews on the 13th ...

[killermmn]

i think the bech will be availble like 15 to 20 april it think!! (mag)
:drooling: while be drollng all over again!!! :drooling:

[Evildeus]

If any reviewer happens to have some engineering samples by that timeWell, it seems already the case ;) or at least some reviewers have had the possibility to bench the NV40.

[Geforce4ti4200]

Well, it seems already the case ;) or at least some reviewers have had the possibility to bench the NV40.


is nvnews themselves gonna review one such nv40? :nana: :cool3: :dance: (inv)

[Evildeus]

is nvnews themselves gonna review one such nv40? :nana: :cool3: :dance: (inv)
I hope so: and

Recently we received confirmation that the first retail samples of ATI's R420 (AGP Radeon X800) will debut April 26 as Radeon X800 Pro. NVIDIA's NV40 (GeForce 6800) officially launches April 13th, but retail availability will occur around April 26th.

What seems highly unusual is the scheduled introduction of Radeon X800 XT on May 31st; only a month after Radeon X800 Pro's unveiling. Recall that Radeon 9800 and 9800 XT were launched six months apart. We can speculate ATI has either changed their marketing strategy, or the difference in performance between R420 and NV40 hastens ATI's release schedule. Further inspection of the ATI roadmaps reveals that "Non-Pro" Radeon X800s are absent.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=2018

[DMA]

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=2018

Cool, thanks for the link. Some good info there. :bounce:
NVIDIA's NV40 (GeForce 6800) officially launches April 13th, but retail availability will occur around April 26th
Especially that.
Looks like paper launches are history. :clap2:

Another thing about Radeon X800XT. Is that just a higher clocked X800 Pro? Or will that be the mysterious 12 pipe thingy? Weird if they launch a card that pretty much destroys the X800 Pro so shortly after though.
My head hurts.. :)

[Geforce4ti4200]

wow nice!!!!!!!

x800 pro
x800xt
x600 pro
x600xt
x300 pro
x300xt

and there could be a "se" for each. man 9 different cards from ati and thats just for agp! the real question is, how good will the x600xt be? if it uses 128 bit ram, then I doubt itll own a 9700 pro, itll be like a 9500 pro on steriods. If 256 bit ram then it could match a 9800xt or even own it depending on clocks. I am pretty sure the x600 will be 8 pipes since itll be those x800s that didnt make 12 pipes while the xt300 are those with 4 pipes. heres my guess:

x800 pro 500/900 with 12 pipes
x800xt 600/1100(thats what a rumor said)
x600 pro 500/800 with 8 pipes
x600xt 600/800 with 8 pipes
x300 pro 400/600 with 4 pipes(very similar to a 9600 pro)
x300xt 550/650 with 4 pipes

[OWA]

I hope so: and


http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=2018

I deleted the other thread. Sorry about that.

[Mariner]

Personally, I reckon the X800SE will be the performance mainstream card. Assuming the X600s (i.e. RV380) are little more than the PCI equivalent of the RV360s, I've just a sneaky suspicion that the 'performance mainstream' market will need an 8-pipe (2 quad) chip on the 0.13 micron process to replace the R360. Of course, this might not happen for another six months.

I could also be utterly wrong!

[Geforce4ti4200]

I thought the rv380 isnt just a pci-e of the 9600 pro, its the midrange of the r420!

[Skinner]

http://www.hardcoreware.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10149&stc=1

http://www.hardcoreware.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15088

[DMA]

Fake? :)
Who is this "Obraxis" guy anyway? :D

[Miksu]

I can tell you that even without having NV40 scores I'd know that those UT2003 scores are total bull****.

Baron's comment from B3D.

[Geforce4ti4200]

judging by the benchies, hes cpu limited badly. 240fps to the 279fps in 1024x768 thats only 16% faster. however 146 to the 266 in 1600x1200 shows a massive 82% increase! Thats why with a slow cpu or if you play at 1024x768 a ti4200 or 9800p is good enough

[vampireuk]

http://www.hardcoreware.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10149&stc=1

http://www.hardcoreware.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15088


Until the NDA is lifted I wouldn't put any faith in "leaked" benches.

[Evildeus]

Yeah, but well, it's entertaining ;)

[Evanescence]

Look at the right below conner, it looks like someone have painted away the logo.

[poursoul]

judging by the benchies, hes cpu limited badly. 240fps to the 279fps in 1024x768 thats only 16% faster. however 146 to the 266 in 1600x1200 shows a massive 82% increase! Thats why with a slow cpu or if you play at 1024x768 a ti4200 or 9800p is good enough

Ummmm... what the hell?

if he were cpu limited there would be no increase in frame rate or very little. 16% is not a little, and niether is 82%. Maybe you meant GPU not CPU limited.

But beings how UT2004 is a very CPU intensive game, those benchies most likely are full O bull.

[Geforce4ti4200]

I sure as heck wouldnt pay for an nv40 for only 16% more performance