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Head_slinger
04-12-04, 05:47 PM
Hi,

I play a number of games mostly Unreal Engine based, Americas Army, RvS, UT2k4 etc.

Im getting pretty bad frames in all these games and i want to know what is top priority for upgrading. I dont have enough cash todo GPU + CPU so its one or the other. Ive noticed that changing my resolution doesnt really help the frames that much, i usually get big dips when loud sound shooting etc. start. EAX???

Anyway, thanx in advance

head_slinger

MUYA
04-12-04, 05:54 PM
A gpu maybe...I think anyway one of the new ones from NV or ATI that will launch soon.

saturnotaku
04-12-04, 06:09 PM
I would go CPU/memory before video card. PC2100 on a KT266A is quite a bottleneck. Exactly how much money do you have to spend?

MUYA
04-12-04, 06:17 PM
I would go CPU/memory before video card. PC2100 on a KT266A is quite a bottleneck. Exactly how much money do you have to spend?
Dunno Sat, I always gone for the latest GPU powered cards :D At least that way even though it might be held back by the cpu/mobo u can still got percentage of the new gaming goodness offered by the new nv40 or r420 ;)

Head_slinger
04-12-04, 06:19 PM
£500+ id go as far as £600. So its pretty tight.

ragejg
04-12-04, 06:24 PM
:p:pMONEY FIGURES ARE IN AMERICAN DOLLARS, SORRY:p:p

that particular kt266a has absolutely no qualms running @ 166fsb, and Bartons work in em... I recommend he ditch the 1900 to a friend for $40, get a 1700 for $40, clock that @ 166fsb, 2.0ghz (big improvement)... and basically end up with quite an upgrade...

the ti4400 scales nicely and will appreciate the headroom... they seem to feel much like a GF3 in 133fsb systems, but they open the gap up quite a bit when scaling to higher fsb...

:)

PS: chances are your ram might not have any probs @ 166 as well... that Abit board's really not too picky with ram... I have one and have done quite a bit of sucessful OC'ing with it (as long as my hard drive was a maxtor)... 1700 @ 2.1ghz, 189 fsb, 2400 @ 2.3ghz, 182fsb, Barton 2500 @ 2.2ghz, 182fsb...

MUYA
04-12-04, 06:25 PM
wow £600 punds u might just be able to get a new nv40/r420 card and a mobo and cpu? how are the parts priced in the UK...i remeber some ppl saying that u guys get cheated...

Head_slinger
04-12-04, 06:43 PM
i like the idea of overclocking, but i doubt this ram will handle it. Its some ****ty generic stuff.

I havnt done the conversion but i recon i can spend about $900-$1000.

Ive got some of the parts i was looking at so you can see price's overhere.

AMD *Retail* Athlon 64bit 3400 32/64Bit CPU S754 £296.50 Inc VAT
Gigabyte GA-K8VNXP (VIA K8T800) Socket 754 £113.96 Inc VAT
Corsair TwinX 1024MB 400Mhz 3200 Cas 2 Low Latency ( 2 x 512MB PC3200 MATCHED PAIR LLPT) £208.20 Inc VAT

Thats what id be looking at (roughly) if i went for CPU upgrade.

OR

Gainward 256Mb FX5950 Ultra PowerPack! (5452) Ultra/1800 XP £354.85 Inc VAT

Im also thinking of waiting for the next socket athlons if i do decide on a processor upgrade, or NV40/ATI one :).

Gator
04-12-04, 07:34 PM
Well I'm an Unreal Engine player myself with the same video card as you. I saw a really nice performance boost going from an AXP1700 to Barton2600. So that being the case, I'd say go for the CPU/mobo upgrade :)

Because if you get a new video card, it'll be good :), but it'll also be bottlenecked by your CPU and bus speed :(

anzak
04-12-04, 09:41 PM
I would buy the Athlon 64, mobo, and 1GB of ram before a Geforce FX 5950. If you really want to upgrade your video card then wait for the new cards which you should have no trouble finding info on here at nV News.

Head_slinger
04-13-04, 09:52 AM
yup, i think ill go for the CPU upgrade then.

Thanx for all help.

head_slingers

saturnotaku
04-13-04, 09:56 AM
If you want to hedge your bets and get a head start on saving for that video card, I wouldn't waste the money on a 3400+ A64. The 3200+ is probably 85% of the performance at a little more than 50% of the price. Even the K8T800 chipset should allow you to OC that chip to 3400+ levels anyway, especially since you'll be getting good quality RAM.

Head_slinger
04-13-04, 06:28 PM
ive been doing some investigation,

ive decided im going to put up with it until i start seeing PCI-E motherboards probably when socket 939 appears. It means then i wont have any trouble getting the best gfx card money can buy.

Thanx for help.

saturnotaku
04-13-04, 06:35 PM
That works too. :D

zack
04-29-04, 12:31 PM
I have pretty much the same setup as you, even the same CPU heat sink! I get excellent performance in UT2k4. Haven't tried the other games in the list mentioned.

I have Athlon XP 1800+
GF4 Ti4400
Abit KR7A-RAID
1 GB PC2100 RAM

I think UT2k4 runs even better than UT2k3 on my system.