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gordon151
05-04-04, 08:51 AM
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/geforce_6800_ultra_extreme/default.asp

Fresh off the introduction of GeForce 6800 Ultra a few weeks ago, NVIDIA is back again with a pair of new GeForce 6 products, and we’re not talking about the GeForce 6800 either. On the ultra high-end of the market, NVIDIA and its board partners will be producing an overclocked GeForce 6800 Ultra part, a final name has not been officially announced, but the running title is GeForce 6800 Ultra (Extreme). This board ships with a 450MHz NV40 graphics core, 50MHz higher than the default GeForce 6800 Ultra and effectively boosting fill-rate by nearly 10%.

Damn, nVidia sure reacts fast to these things. New drivers too!

Ruined
05-04-04, 09:27 AM
Only thing is, I don't see the Ultra Extreme making up for the performance gaps in the games it does lose in (mainly ones with large amounts of AA/AF applied).

saturnotaku
05-04-04, 09:29 AM
I wish NVIDIA would have just made the Ultra 450 MHz and have been done with it. Obviously the chip is capable of those speeds.

ClosetFanBoy
05-04-04, 09:40 AM
more 6800ue - gt and 800xt - pro comparisons.

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6095215/index.html

jbirney
05-04-04, 09:46 AM
While its good, it would have been better to up the memory speed as well...

saturnotaku
05-04-04, 10:01 AM
While its good, it would have been better to up the memory speed as well...

Excellent point as well. You have to figure most enthusiasts will buy the Ultra and OC it to those speeds.

Though with the Extreme card, I have to wonder what kinds of clocks we'll see with Gainward's Golden Sample cards. :drooling:

ClosetFanBoy
05-04-04, 10:10 AM
i dont know about you guys but out of all these cards that gt is giving me a rageing hard on! :nana:

john19055
05-04-04, 10:15 AM
The GT looks like that will be the one I get.

Reaper106
05-04-04, 10:18 AM
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET , It's the 6800UE for me... Cant wait for this card :firedevil

Shadowx
05-04-04, 10:31 AM
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET , It's the 6800UE for me... Cant wait for this card :firedevil

$$$$ with just being a NV6800 with 50mhz same memory clock, i dont think it will merrit the $$$ it will cost, to me rigth now the best performance/money ratio is with the X800pro, in a few months thos 4 desable pipelines will be unlish pair that to the great Overclakability and thats my card!

Ruined
05-04-04, 11:06 AM
After reading the gamespot preview, the 6800GT looks friggin sweet! Almost as fast as a 6800U, only uses one molex connector too! And $399!

EMunEeE
05-04-04, 11:08 AM
I wish NVIDIA would have just made the Ultra 450 MHz and have been done with it. Obviously the chip is capable of those speeds.

Some NV40 chips are capable of this speed, not all. I'm sure if they had better yields with the NV40, it would have been 450MHz to begin with.

Stevia
05-04-04, 11:16 AM
Don't forget it was stated by ATI that saphire and other thrid party ATI board makers will be releasing X800XT's at much higher clock rates than the standard ATI-XT. Besides who wants to pay for an overclocked GC when you can do it yourself and save mucho money.

Forget about the Overclocked Extreme 6850+X800XT-E waist of money.

Jarred
05-04-04, 11:31 AM
Well so far, It looks as if Nvidia is the clear winner here, the extreme seems to pull ahead in Farcry, and other games it was behind in...

isn't this completly different than what we sall last night?

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1583557,00.asp

coldpower27
05-04-04, 12:19 PM
Unfortunately the pciture isn't so clear, some review sites paint the X800 Series in a very nice light... as well.

Hexus.net and HardOCP come to mind.

dave_
05-04-04, 12:26 PM
to me rigth now the best performance/money ratio is with the X800pro

seems like it

Jarred
05-04-04, 12:31 PM
hmmm... maybe there won't be a clear winner this time around,

jimmyjames123
05-04-04, 12:37 PM
I agree with you. Both NV and ATI cards this go around have very good performance and a different set of features that makes them appealing to different enthusiasts.

zakelwe
05-04-04, 12:38 PM
Though with the Extreme card, I have to wonder what kinds of clocks we'll see with Gainward's Golden Sample cards. :drooling:

500+ with CoolFX

Press release soon.

:D

Regards

Andy

Casper
05-04-04, 12:40 PM
Well in Far Cry it´s safe to say we do have a clear winner. 4x aa and 8x aa and the X800 PRO flies away not to say the X800XT... There was an odd benchmark in Far Cry driverheaven did where the 6800 ULTRA was clearly faster in it´s NV30 specific mode at 1600x1200 but enabling 4x aa and 8x anisotrophic made the 6800 PRO sail away.

I have been lucky being able to spot a clear winner. I base my conclusion on two games I play and will play a lot. Far Cry and FS 2004. ATI being significantly faster in both. Kind of expected that for FS 2004 but not for Far Cry...

In fact the X800 PRO is the only one I see consistently score at 1600x1200 with aa and anisotrophic. Surely in some games it get beaten by the 6800 ULTRA but all is playable at that settings on the radeons (except perhaps Far Cry) versus some is just not possible to play at that res on the nVidia cards.

Most reviews surely seem to be in favour for ATI it seems in term of game performance versus the synthetic benchmarks definiatly belongs to nVidia.

Just like our beloved Inquirer said.

That said the NV40 surely is more interesting however not as beautiful and slick as the X800:s... It´s like american muscle cars against those little Porsches.

zakelwe
05-04-04, 12:41 PM
Unfortunately the pciture isn't so clear, some review sites paint the X800 Series in a very nice light... as well.

Hexus.net and HardOCP come to mind.

Hexus neglected the 1600x1200 x4AA 6800u sweetspot and went from 1024x768 to 1024x768 x8AA :(

We all know nvidia takes a hammering on x8AA, but 1600x1200 x4AA is better than 1024x768 x8AA

Regards

Andy

Casper
05-04-04, 12:46 PM
But driverheaven used 4x aa and that made the 6800 U loose out to the X800 PRO.

http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/6800x800pro/farcry.htm

This is on a A64 FX-53 system I may add...

CaiNaM
05-04-04, 12:48 PM
i dont know about you guys but out of all these cards that gt is giving me a rageing hard on! :nana:

frankly in that segment i'm more inclined to go with the x800pro. early indications is that it will be substantially faster than the gt, considering in most aspects the x800pro is as fast as the 6800 ultra, and in a few cases, faster... at a $100 lower pricepoint.

my biggest disappointment with ati is the lack of sm3.0 support; specifically the inability to do vertex texturing. that's the main reason holding me back from ati. sure, it's not an issue now, but frankly i would hope to hang on to this card more than 6-12 months. while the performance is impressive, it's still an r300 on steroids, and seems more like a "refesh", the impressive performance gains not withstanding.

i do think ati "wins" in terms of form factor and power consumption, tho for me personally these factors are inconsequential.

i would have liked to have seen more information on driver features as well. nv's "game profiles" would definately be a nice feature for ati to incorporate, especially considering the nature of temporal aa.

regarding the ultra extreme, i frankly do not see a reason for it considering availability will be poor, and it will surely demand a price premium over the x800xt which is already a $500 part.

in the end, at this stage i believe there are "wins" on both sides, and it seems to me that price and availability will define things. getting the cards to retail will be a huge advantage for ati if they deliver in the timeframe they have stated.

Jarred
05-04-04, 12:52 PM
I'm more interested in the new 6800Ultra "Extreme" reviews...

zakelwe
05-04-04, 01:08 PM
I'm more interested in the new 6800Ultra "Extreme" reviews...

Gainward are trying to get out a 500Mhz version of this, press release this week.

Regards

Andy