View Full Version : nv45 tape out ???
well came across this today at beyond3d .....hmmmmm
here (http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12230)
lets see how long it take for the inq to pick this one up
retsam
It takes 12 weeka for tape out so the 6800 may have a short life span, which can be worse for customers :(
It takes 12 weeka for tape out so the 6800 may have a short life span, which can be worse for customers not really this could be great for customers ...dude your looking at this all wrong the 6800 will plumit in price this is a good this for customers !
And what about the people that bought the card? They paid top doller for the cards for a very small while will be bested.
And this is BAD for us, look now we have so may video cards peformance mainstream is now $399 while it used to be $299 there we go if you want a decent card to last a while you already have to shell out an extra 100bux and when will this end? Heck we now have a new market $599!!! Prices have been increasing and adding more cards to the market will not stop that.
And this is BAD for us, look now we have so may video cards peformance mainstream is now $399 while it used to be $299 there we go if you want a decent card to last a while you already have to shell out an extra 100bux and when will this end? Heck we now have a new market $599!!! Prices have been increasing and adding more cards to the market will not stop that.
and more of a selection is bad??? why...this sucks for people who have that attitude of " i always have to have the best" ...crap...but for the average person this is great ....
Not really as i said the Peformance mainstream has become more expensive, the X800 Pro & the 6900GT is now THE Ti4200 so prices have jump up now.
I've seen some NV45 docs on power consumption, sample availability and PCB layout.
Going by those things I'd say that the NV45 is to NV40 what NV38 was to NV35. (Identical PCB layout, more or less identical power requirements, samples allready available or at least will be within days.)
quote from b3d heheheh sounds promising
austincraig23
05-12-04, 02:13 PM
i do not understand you logic. how is this bad?
in no way is this bad.
1st ... no one forced people to buy a 500+ dollar card, the people did it of their own free will and evidently they have money to burn.
2nd everyone knows your box is not cutting edge in 6 months on average. the people knew this as well.
3rd more products , choices, competitions lowers prices across the board.
if ati were the only maker of graphics cards, rest assured you would be using about a 8500 right now due to lack of competition and they would charge you out the ass for it.
4th main stream performance is not 400 bucks... thats for the hardcore people.
you will NEVER get the general public to pay 400 bucks for a graphics card.
in fact the graphics companys make the majority of their money on the low end to middle market.
just right now ati, nor nvidia have out a next generation mainstream 200 buck card. (debatable if 200 is mainstream.. more like 100-150 for the average joe)
austincraig23
05-12-04, 02:15 PM
o yes.. and 5th. the more of these cutting edge cards that sell... ,,, the more their features will be used in games, thus making your investment worthwhile.
nvidias 6800 pixel shader 3.0 anyone?? (too bad ati cant do that :) )
if no one bought the card , i doubt its features would be adopted as fast.
Evildeus
05-13-04, 03:12 AM
Well being tape out now plus the next revision plus plenty of days to full production, i would say 4-5 month before availability so october/november is not of the road. The interesting point would be, when will it be announced? September, october, november? Make your choice.
nutball
05-13-04, 07:13 AM
And what about the people that bought the card? They paid top doller for the cards for a very small while will be bested.
So you'd be happy if NVIDIA and ATI sat back and didn't launch any new GPUs for, say, two years?
People round here seem to have everything all screwy. Constant howling for more performance, extra features, new architectures, etc., etc., on stupidly short product cycles, and they want the latest-and-greatest top-end card they just paid £500 for to be the top-of-the-pile for 18 months so they don't have to buy a new one. :screwy:
You can have one or the other, not both. How about paying £200 for a upper-mid-range card and sticking with it for 18 months? Being happy with it for 18 months? Not giving a flying-f*** about your GruntMark3D score? Sheesh.
It's a graphics card, not a Manhood Augmentation Device(TM).
Do you know where I can get one of those manhood augmentation devices?
austincraig23
05-14-04, 02:59 PM
sadly im still using my old geforce 4 4200 overclocked.
sure it cant run all the games w/ all the features turned on.. but im in colllege..
and i dont give a flip about my 3dmark score.
reviewers need to wake up and stop using the same old games to benchmark w/ since ati and nvidia BOTH optimise for them.
they need to use obscure games.
then we could get a real picture of whats going on.
good? bad?
Isn't nv45 the PciE native version of Nv 40?
so what's the problem?
Riptide
05-27-04, 11:09 AM
I think I read somewhere it's basically a PCI Express NV40 that's been clocked a bit higher. So I doubt it's going to mop the floor with the 6800U...
Maverick123w
05-28-04, 02:04 PM
I think I read somewhere it's basically a PCI Express NV40 that's been clocked a bit higher. So I doubt it's going to mop the floor with the 6800U...
Well depending on how far gddr3 has progressed, it could be possible that it will perform much better in some instances.
AthlonXP1800
05-28-04, 04:41 PM
NV45 are already been taped out and HEXUS.net (http://www.hexus.net/) had an exclusive look at the NV45 card:
NV Powershift
Posted on Thursday, 27 May, 2004 by David
Today we managed to sneak an exclusive look at the new NVIDIA PCI-Express based NV45 card which apparently does not use the HSI interface (we are waiting for a 3rd party to confirm this fact.) Apparently NV45 is a new tape out and has NATIVE PCI-E support.
True to their word NVIDIA have dropped the second connector on the card, however something which does raise doubts in our minds is the fact they now have a 3*2 connector on the card instead of a normal 'molex' connector.
This is, in theory forcing consumers to buy a new PSU to feed this - the reason for the power connector change is to give 4 12 volt feeds to the card.
We would like to give more information but at the moment we don't have it. We don't have any photos either, but as we get it we will tell you more.
I wonder is that 3*2 connector actually a 4 pin ATX power connector or an adapter?
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