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jAkUp
05-14-04, 07:49 PM
Didn't notice the first 2 days, but today I head over to the nVidia booth... check out FarCry.. and I notice it is running the new PS 3.0 patch on a 6800 Ultra. It is INCREDIBLE. The rocks, shadows, are absolutely stunning, it looks as if every single rock was rendered. My friend took a video of me playing, I will see if I can get that uploaded later, here is a few pictures though:

Mirror:
http://www.pcextreme.net/media/farcryps3shortsmall.zip
(Thanks Dwayne)

muzz
05-14-04, 07:51 PM
Awesome, you sound like you had fun J. :)

Jarred
05-14-04, 08:21 PM
Really so it was running at decent framerate?

cause when I went to see it, it was kinda laggy... maybe it was just that "one" machine that I saw. Go play Stalker if you get the chance.

jAkUp
05-14-04, 08:26 PM
It was kinda laggy occasionally.. but It was running 4xaa... so i think that might have been it

GlowStick
05-14-04, 08:31 PM
Wow, we need someone to find the same location and take snap of it in the highist mode you can use now

Blacklash
05-14-04, 08:37 PM
Nice! I can't wait to get my 6800u and for directx9.0c to be released.

raysusan
05-14-04, 08:48 PM
it looks cool
by the way how did u take your screen shot?

jAkUp
05-14-04, 09:35 PM
I took those screenshots just with the camera on my pda. Also, they had the famous boat level, (same level on demo) Thats why the game first grabbed my attention, it looked incredible. The gravel on the beach looked really good. Although the question remains maybe this stuff is capable on 2.0, but never implemented because it would run too slow on NV3X hardware?

Ady
05-14-04, 09:59 PM
Although the question remains maybe this stuff is capable on 2.0, but never implemented because it would run too slow on NV3X hardware?

Well that's basically what the Crytek guys already said. It can be done on sm2 and sm3. You're right that it would be too slow on nv3x, i'm pretty sure it would just be way too slow on a R3x0 too.

I hope this gets released somehow.

MontoyaSG
05-14-04, 10:02 PM
maybe they should juz do a comparison of performance between SM 2.0 rendered & SM 3.0 rendered scenes
and since SM 2.0 can do multipass to render SM 3.0 scenes they could take into consideration the performance hit when multipass is being used & show it

hovz
05-14-04, 11:43 PM
looks nice, upload video asap!!!

mikechai
05-14-04, 11:51 PM
Yup. We want video!

jAkUp
05-14-04, 11:54 PM
I will try to get it as soon as i can, I will call my friend tommorrow

hovz
05-15-04, 12:02 AM
jackup, so it was 4x aa, what about AF and resolution? and when u say laggy what fps would u say it was average. what did it feel like. SPREAD THE KNOWLEDGE

jAkUp
05-15-04, 12:06 AM
af was set at 1.. resolution i believe was 1280x1024. If I had to take a guess at the fps, I would say 25 average. I would assume it is kinda low because of the AA, since Farcry seems to take a fairly large hit when AA is used... the only way i knew it was 4xaa is because that is what it was set at in the game options.

All the game options were at very high, and the water at ultra high. The shadow casted from the trees looked really good.. they moved as the trees moved, the whole environment looked better.

There was a buggy also present, I took a quick look at the buggy, and it seems to look the same as the buggy on my system. The only real difference I could notice were the shadows, and the gravel/sand.

hovz
05-15-04, 12:08 AM
probly sounds dumb, but what is 1 af???

jAkUp
05-15-04, 12:11 AM
That is just the setting in game... the lowest you can set the AF to is 1. I never quit the game, everything is read from the ingame options.

hovz
05-15-04, 12:16 AM
so then it was 2x af? ill ask the question evrybody wants to but no one has yet. were there any games running on both ati and nvidia hardware, and if so compare them. also how do the graphics in doom 3, stalker, half life 2, and other top games compare to far cry

jAkUp
05-15-04, 12:26 AM
Im not sure what FarCrys "1" setting actually does... maybe somebody can answer this for me...

hmmm... well there was really no game that was running on ati, as well as nv hardware. But there were plenty of 6800/x800's running. I got to play Leisure Suit Larry, Magna Cum Laude at the ATI booth, and got a free keychain.. pretty neat game. I can say however that ATI as well as Nvidia games both looked very good. It seemed games were taking sides, they were either on ATI side, or nVidia side.

As for doom3, the only verison they were showing was the xbox version. Stalker looked very impressive, but to me, I still think FarCry had better graphics... I dunno what it is. Don't get me wrong, Stalkers graphics are nice, but I still think FarCry has the upper hand.

Half Life 2 looked good again, the only thing new was Counterstrike source, which is basically counterstrike redone with the source engine. They had redone the Map Aztec. And that was pretty cool. As far as Half Life 2 graphics, its really not much that you havent seen... The character models look extremely impressive though, easily the best I have seen in a FPS.

It does however, look VERY interactive. At one point a guard chucked a grenade at the person playing, and before it detonated, the player picked up the grenade with the gravity gun and threw it back at the merc, exploding it in his face. Pretty cool ;)

freak77power
05-15-04, 12:26 AM
It's nothing special, looks as same as PS2.0. Personally, I can't play the game having 25FPS, and really Far Cry with AA2x looks crappy...

PS3.0 is not worth now. Yes, it's nice feature but NV40 is not good PS3.0 performer.

RickCain
05-15-04, 12:38 AM
It's nothing special, looks as same as PS2.0. Personally, I can't play the game having 25FPS, and really Far Cry with AA2x looks crappy...

PS3.0 is not worth now. Yes, it's nice feature but NV40 is not good PS3.0 performer.

:lol2: Why buy a 500.00 card to get 25fps running 1280x1024 w/ 2xAA and 1X AF? Seems like the cats out the bag so to speak....

freak77power
05-15-04, 12:39 AM
Well that's basically what the Crytek guys already said. It can be done on sm2 and sm3. You're right that it would be too slow on nv3x, i'm pretty sure it would just be way too slow on a R3x0 too.

I hope this gets released somehow.

NV3x cards never run PS2.0...but PS1.1 in Far Cry. R3xx does not support PS3.0 but it runs Far Cry PS2.0 twice as fast as NV3x using PS2.0 as well.
But real difference between PS2.0 and PS2.0 in Far Cry is none...
The same image quality...
The only difference is FP32 vs FP24 but human eyes can't tell difference at this level of shader complexity.

Some people don't see it, but X800XT simply eats NV40 in Far Cry.
1600*1200 FSAA4x AF8x X800XT give playable frame rate for this game, NV40 can't even start it...

hovz
05-15-04, 12:41 AM
while i admit 25 fps isnt optimal and ever since nv30 i tend to prefer ati, i have to admit those pics are a clear improvement. how can u say those pics dont look good? im suprised u said far cry looks better than stalker. how about far cry v half life and doom 3. i know they only showed the xbox version, but u must have previously seen the pc version because u obviously have connections. what about half life v doom3.

freak77power
05-15-04, 12:43 AM
And as I said before NV40 performance in PS3.0 for this game is close to performance of r360 in PS2.0. I don't think that NVIDIA will let situations where X800XT has double performance of NV40.

This video is just good marketing thing, and it shows goodies of PS3.0.
But, PS3.0 has to wait for a year or more...

hovz
05-15-04, 12:46 AM
i agree that nv40s implementation of shader 3.0 is too early to use effecitvly without killing performance, but those pics DO look good.