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saturnotaku
08-01-02, 05:58 PM
I'll come out and say it. I like Internet Explorer. It's the most compatible web browser out there, it's fast and pretty easy to use. But one of my own criticisms of IE is the fact that there's no support for tabbed browsing like there is in Mozilla or Opera. One of our friends from across the Pacific has addressed this concern with his program called MyIE2. In addition to tabbed browsing for IE, there are a whole host of other options available for your purusal and customization.
The current version is 0.45 build 1200. It's only about 600 kb to download and you can pull it from MajorGeeks (http://www.majorgeeks.com). So far I've suffered from none of Opera's page incompatibilities and Mozilla's instability. If you're an IE junkie but want tab support, give this program a shot. :)
fishlung
08-01-02, 06:57 PM
I also have to admit that I think IE is great. Working in web design/publishing, I absolutely hate having to tweak HTML and JavaScript to work with Netscape. I honestly can't stand Netscape (especially the latest). I've used IE so much that I've grown extremely partial to it, and I think it runs flawlessly (as a browser gets). MyIE2 sounds even better. Thanks, I'm going to have to give it a try :)
saturnotaku
08-01-02, 07:03 PM
I was concerned at first about its popup control. I have the Popup stopper companion installed for IE and it does a great job. I was worried that it wasn't working with MyIE. But I think I got popup stopper to work by enabling IE browser extensions within the MyIE options.
So far so good on the sites I visit that are popup laden.
I have to agree with you about the development aspects of IE. Netscape is an utter pain for a developer. IMO, Opera and Mozilla have superceded Netscape in terms of the usability.
I have to disagree with saturnotaku when it comes to Mozilla and compatibility / stability. I've been running Mozilla 1.0 (now 1.1b) and I can't say anything bad about that browser. It's very fast and stable for me. There is only one (currently) bugger though. I hate it's Bookmark manager. So far IE has the best bookmarking capabilities. Thanks for the link though, will definetly try that one :)
Ie is T3h W0rst....
Only reason that filth is still/will ever be on my comp is that Bill won't allow other browsers access windows update....:mad:
saturnotaku
08-02-02, 01:22 AM
The thing is, a lot of web sites will only be fully functional with Internet Explorer whether you like it or lump it. Like when I was doing configurations and ordering for my laptop, I couldn't use any browser but IE because the links wouldn't work properly with either Mozilla or Opera.
For generic web surfing, I would absolutely use an alternative browser. I personally prefer Mozilla to Opera but the two are very close.
Tomorrow morning I'll definitely head over and download Mozilla 1.1b, though MyIE2 is working out exceptionally well for me.
Bleh...The only site that hasn't worked for me in Opera is Windows update...Mozilla had a few more....bleh...I guess Opera is just suited better to my browsing needs....
I have to say that IE is NOT the most compatible browser with regards to standards. The don't properly implement some tags of CSS1 (let alone CSS2) and they handle other things wrong. They look like the most compatible because web designers can sometimes fudge web pages to work with specific browsers. Check out this PNG Demo (http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.0/demos/eagle-sun.html) with IE and tell me what you see.
Ars Technica put up a review of Mozilla. Follow this link (http://arstechnica.com/reviews/02q3/mozilla.1/moz-1.html) to read the review.
[Corporal Dan]
08-02-02, 09:13 AM
Mozilla crahes a lot
Originally posted by DadGT
I have to say that IE is NOT the most compatible browser with regards to standards. The don't properly implement some tags of CSS1 (let alone CSS2) and they handle other things wrong. They look like the most compatible because web designers can sometimes fudge web pages to work with specific browsers. Check out this PNG Demo (http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.0/demos/eagle-sun.html) with IE and tell me what you see.
Ars Technica put up a review of Mozilla. Follow this link (http://arstechnica.com/reviews/02q3/mozilla.1/moz-1.html) to read the review.
http://rootforce.phpwebhosting.com/screenshots/mozilla.jpg
styles-T
08-02-02, 03:49 PM
What about system resources?
Which Explorer would you recommend..when it comes to memory and system resources?
vampireuk
08-02-02, 05:52 PM
I personally have no complaints with IE, it does what I want it to do and im rather use to it:)
Philibob
08-02-02, 07:22 PM
IE4 wasn't that good really IE5 was better. I've had no problems so far with IE6.
They look like the most compatible because web designers can sometimes fudge web pages to work with specific browsers. Check out this PNG Demo with IE and tell me what you see.
I see that IE doesn't support the PNG alpha channel, but there is a work around for that using a DirectX filter.
I learnt to code from the W3C specifications, there were always things that didn't work on either browser, but more often or not they worked on IE and not Mozilla or Netscape.
styles-T
08-08-02, 03:09 PM
After reading this thread I dl'ed Mozilla and gotta say its definitely worth an install if you havnt tried it..The tabbed browsing is a hell of an idea..I just didnt like the netscape layout it uses..I downloaded a different theme (the one d1rx posted) and gotta say this might be a new IE for me..definitley worth a shot if you havnt tried it..
saturnotaku
08-08-02, 05:19 PM
Mozilla 1.1b is definitely improved over 1.0. I've had minimal rendering issues and stability has been top-notch. There are a few little things here and there, but I've found myself using Mozilla as my primary browser.
As far as themes go, I like the standard modern one. It's clean and efficient.
I do have a question, though. I couldn't find this in the options anywhere, but I want to know if there's a way to set up the browser where, when I clicked on links that they would open in a new tab instead of in a new window. Having to right-click on links can be a pain in the butt.
They look like the most compatible because web designers can sometimes fudge web pages to work with specific browsers. Check out this PNG Demo with IE and tell me what you see.
Then again when many people use things like MS Front Page to design their sites...of course MS HTML authoring programs will favor their browser over a competitor...
In reality it seems one needs both browsers today due to what one can run into on various sites. There is one big complaint I have with Mozilla and Netscape 6.x (which I never had with Netscape 4.7x) but this is with Messenger. It comes down to saving one's store of email. Back it up, do a format and clean install, then reinstall the browser, one's email profile with all the former messages (all organized in folders they were previously in) is no longer there. In Netscape 4.7x it was, I consider this handling in the mail client to be a step backwards, and major reason I switched to OE.
Unlike the old time AOL users (of which I was never one) some of us do want to save our mail messages permanently or semi-permanently, and be free to completely wipe and reinstall our system (if needed) without any of this being lost accross new installs. Takes too much control over this out of the users hands for my own tastes
styles-T
08-09-02, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by saturnotaku
Mozilla 1.1b is definitely improved over 1.0. I've had minimal rendering issues and stability has been top-notch. There are a few little things here and there, but I've found myself using Mozilla as my primary browser.
As far as themes go, I like the standard modern one. It's clean and efficient.
I do have a question, though. I couldn't find this in the options anywhere, but I want to know if there's a way to set up the browser where, when I clicked on links that they would open in a new tab instead of in a new window. Having to right-click on links can be a pain in the butt.
If you use your middle click mouse button on the url or link it will make a new tab in the same window? if thats what you mean?
try going to edit>preferences - everything you need is right there..
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