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V0ices
05-20-04, 05:00 AM
Wtf not looking good if its true
nv40.com (http://www.nv40.com)

saturnotaku
05-20-04, 05:15 AM
Even though the source is the Inq, it's a story I actually might believe. The reporters are still dip****s, though. BGF? Word to the wise, it's BFG. :retard:

zakelwe
05-20-04, 07:10 AM
Gainward claim 430Mhz + for the aircooled version of their GS so this is hardly an earthshattering disclosure.

Regards

Andy

V0ices
05-20-04, 07:25 AM
so this is hardly an earthshattering disclosure.

Regards

Andy

Yep,nobody said it was tho eh.. :retard:

zakelwe
05-20-04, 07:39 AM
Yep,nobody said it was tho eh.. :retard:

Sorry, you seemed to be of the opinion that it was news that only you knew and was worthy of a new thread.

Putting a retard smilie on your post is being a bit harsh on yourself though, you are just behind the ball a bit.

Regards

Andy

r2d2d3d4d5
05-20-04, 07:50 AM
I thought a few review sites had 450MHz air cooled Extremes for their reviews.
So the top of the range nVidia card this round will be the Ultra. With the Extreme being a sort of specialist card for very few people, if any. Some ATI partners will probably also release Extreme version of ATI's card like they did in the last round.

V0ices
05-20-04, 09:24 AM
Sorry, you seemed to be of the opinion that it was news that only you knew and was worthy of a new thread.

Putting a retard smilie on your post is being a bit harsh on yourself though, you are just behind the ball a bit.

Regards

Andy
Do you always reply to threads that you've got no real input for or is it something to do with your kudos in front of your mates..?

|JuiceZ|
05-20-04, 09:31 AM
Do you always reply to threads that you've got no real input for or is it something to do with your kudos in front of your mates..?

chill out d00d, don't think he was trying to offend you, just saying that this info has been a round for a bit ;)

V0ices
05-20-04, 09:37 AM
chill out d00d, don't think he was trying to offend you, just saying that this info has been a round for a bit ;)
Im chilled mate, cant find any news on that story tho so i posted it.
Just thought it was a lame dig...a simple link to the thread of this story would of been a better idea.

|JuiceZ|
05-20-04, 09:55 AM
Thats fine man ;)

MUYA
05-20-04, 11:11 AM
hmm i am thinking maybe they have a driver thing that blocks overclocking erm ala some ATI cards? i mean wasn't r3XX portected from Overclocking thru the driver and Uniwinder introduced those patches to well allow ppl to oc more? hmm just a thought highly unlikely but...

r2d2d3d4d5
05-20-04, 11:27 AM
hmm i am thinking maybe they have a driver thing that blocks overclocking erm ala some ATI cards? i mean wasn't r3XX portected from Overclocking thru the driver and Uniwinder introduced those patches to well allow ppl to oc more? hmm just a thought highly unlikely but...

Wishful thinking perhaps?

MUYA
05-20-04, 11:30 AM
Wishful thinking perhaps?
perhaps but I was just speculating. Nothing wrong with that eh?

jbirney
05-20-04, 11:38 AM
hmm i am thinking maybe they have a driver thing that blocks overclocking erm ala some ATI cards? i mean wasn't r3XX portected from Overclocking thru the driver and Uniwinder introduced those patches to well allow ppl to oc more? hmm just a thought highly unlikely but...

Prehaps. However the size and complexity of the part does not make it easy to OC the part. Then add in power "supply requriements" and it makes it even worse. Still congrads to NV for one kick butt part.

MUYA
05-20-04, 11:42 AM
Prehaps. However the size and complexity of the part does not make it easy to OC the part. Then add in power "supply requriements" and it makes it even worse. Still congrads to NV for one kick butt part.
Thats probably if they did have some sort of OC prevention thing they would want to employ it ;) Ie what the use of overclocking the card when it can go the way of them famour Pentium II 500 remeber guys.... when they came out everyone oc'ed them to 700mhz only to have them go tits up few months later. So I dunno just something but it as u said maybe highly unlikely

grimreefer
05-20-04, 12:56 PM
Wtf not looking good if its true
nv40.com (http://www.nv40.com)
i think ati started that site. that is not true, it seems like people just extrapolated that from seeing reviews of people overclocking their 6800 ultra.

Aion
05-20-04, 01:13 PM
It is pretty clear that web sites that published reviews with the "extreme" numbers have been nothiong more than tools of Nvidias rather misleading PR machine. What you are seeing now are simply the after effects of Nvidia and its board partners slowly fading the story away to try and make their fanbase and the general public forget what they "Claimed" in some of these last second reviews.

Its a Shame really that in this day and age and everything that has gone down the last few years IHV's are still pulling and sites are supporting this kind of thing.

GlowStick
05-20-04, 02:15 PM
Since all the review sites extreme editions are clocked at 450 on air, and the Ultras that were A2 stepping would go to 475 on air cooling, im gonna say they are 100% wrong.

noko
05-20-04, 02:26 PM
What is being shipped? The A1 or the A2 stepping? If the A2 stepping has higher headroom then it should means it has also has higher yields. So it seems strange if Nvidia would release the A1 stepping now with lower yields then refresh with the A2 unless the A2 stepping has some hardware flaws which can't be worked out with drivers.

freak77power
05-20-04, 04:49 PM
I'm afraid we gonna see pictures of NV45 and 6800Ultra is not even going to hit the store lol

Anyway, 60 million of transistors, worthless support for PS3.0 will be costly for NVIDIA...
X800XT with watercooling can easily reach 600+ Mhz for VPU...
ATI enginering is awesome...

saturnotaku
05-20-04, 04:54 PM
X800XT with watercooling can easily reach 600+ Mhz for VPU... ATI enginering is awesome...

The X800 just a rehash of the R360 with some extra pipelines. The NV40 is is a new architecture - it's awfully impressive for NVIDIA to have given a beta product to reviewers with a pretty big clock speed disadvantage and have that card (on beta drivers as well) stay in-line with the ATI offering.

Jarred
05-20-04, 05:13 PM
The X800 just a rehash of the R360 with some extra pipelines. The NV40 is is a new architecture - it's awfully impressive for NVIDIA to have given a beta product to reviewers with a pretty big clock speed disadvantage and have that card (on beta drivers as well) stay in-line with the ATI offering.

I agree, I'm thinking we'll see Nvidia pick some some of that slack in the next month or so. Their Driver dept has never been lazy. :)

reever2
05-20-04, 05:29 PM
The NV40 is is a new architecture

NV40 has way too much in common architecture wise with the NV35 to call it new

saturnotaku
05-20-04, 05:30 PM
NV40 has way too much in common architecture wise with the NV35 to call it new

Fine. The NV40 has less in common with its predecessor than the R420. Fair enough? :rolleyes:

Jarred
05-20-04, 05:32 PM
NV40 has way too much in common architecture wise with the NV35 to call it new

well, exept for the whole ps3.0 thing which supposedly cost them 60mil transistors. :)