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jAkUp
06-06-04, 06:44 PM
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13070&highlight=


strange...

Sazar
06-06-04, 06:58 PM
*shrug*

they are investigating...

if its a faulty card operating on the basis of functioning quads it makes some sense... and given there are different cards giving different results its possible this is the case or nvidia has an el-cheapo version in mind

*shrug*

keep us posted...

saturnotaku
06-06-04, 07:10 PM
If this turns out to be true, and this eight-pipe card can run with the 12-pipe X800, that makes the NV40 all the more impressive.

Sazar
06-06-04, 07:13 PM
I don't think its the 8 pipe versions that are running with the pro sat :)

the GT is 16 pipes and the pro with 12 is not that far off... seems extremely unlikely an 8 pipe card would keep up with the 12 pipe pro ESPECIALLY seeing the compare of the nv40 8 pipe thinger with the 5950...

but then again is this a faulty card or not? coz there are other cards with the same name but better performance...

-=DVS=-
06-06-04, 07:13 PM
6800U only using 8 pipes?

Threads name is missleading they talking about None Ultra.
Could be another 5200 , cheap faster then 5950 with good DX9 support. Wonder what price point is it set for , maybe its to compete with X600 and X300.

D.K.Tronics
06-06-04, 07:14 PM
I think he's talking about the 6800nu, not the Ultra.

But that still doesn't explain why it's only 8 and not 12 pipes.
Perhaps, it's an XT ? A sort of SE version for nvidia ?

fivefeet8
06-06-04, 07:47 PM
It does make you wonder how an 8 pipe Nv40 would compare with a fx5950u besides the price. :D

mikechai
06-06-04, 08:02 PM
I think that particular 6800NU card has a wrong bios.
Perhaps NV is considering putting up an 8 pipes NV40 to the market? :)

SH64
06-06-04, 08:02 PM
Sounds like a 6800XT ! :p

Draconis
06-06-04, 10:49 PM
Sounds like a 6800XT ! :p
Exactly what I was thinking a xt or se version.

CaptNKILL
06-06-04, 11:14 PM
Damn, i wish theyed stop playing around with all this stuff... i know it makes things mor efficient because they never waste any chips (cards that cant do 16 pipe are probably used as 12\8 pipe, i think) but its such a hassle for everyone else. They end up with 12 different versions of the same card and eventually OEMs start playing with the names of the cards and you end up with 8 pipe 6800 Ultras for almost the same price as the "real" ones.

I wish they would just call them 6800, 6700, 6500, etc.... drop the pro\gt crap and stick to numbers.

Fahim
06-06-04, 11:20 PM
It seems NVIDIA wants to stay in thier heritage....

ragejg
06-07-04, 12:29 AM
...and "staying in their heritage" means... ???

:-l

Evildeus
06-07-04, 01:18 AM
That's a bio issue as said in the thread, perhaps also a 6800XT upcoming :D

Gator
06-07-04, 07:34 AM
GF6 with 8pipelines? Well if it's less than $200 than that's fine with me!!! It's a bargin-seekers dream. Get it below $150, and I'll frigin run to Newegg in Cali myself! :drooling:

evilchris
06-07-04, 11:21 AM
I don't think its the 8 pipe versions that are running with the pro sat :)

the GT is 16 pipes and the pro with 12 is not that far off... seems extremely unlikely an 8 pipe card would keep up with the 12 pipe pro ESPECIALLY seeing the compare of the nv40 8 pipe thinger with the 5950...

but then again is this a faulty card or not? coz there are other cards with the same name but better performance...

He said X800. Not X800 Pro.

Edge
06-07-04, 12:32 PM
Hmm, if they do make an 8-pipe version of the 6800 and retail it as a $200 budget card, that could be one of the best deals ever on low-end cards. It seems to be faster than a 5950U, and has the updated AA and Shader engines. Man, even the "budget" cards of this generation are better than the top-of-the-line cards from the last generation, sounds like a real win-win situation for anyone who's buying a new card!

DMA
06-08-04, 10:39 AM
Looks like the card just needed a new bios. "Ufon" flashed it with a newer one from Leadtek and everything seems ok. 12 pipes in action. :)
Link at B3D (http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13070&start=60)

Pretty cool. ~9000 in 3DMark-03 after the flash.. :D

MUYA
06-08-04, 10:41 AM
that is interesting now....a quad processor being enabled via bois flash...hmmm

Sazar
06-08-04, 10:42 AM
probably was buggered out of box... only explanation i can think of... needed a little coaxing to get it to work...

AnteP
06-08-04, 03:25 PM
that is interesting now....a quad processor being enabled via bois flash...hmmm

not very amazing stuff really?
I have such a board at home, I'm going to try to flash it with a 16 pipe BIOS later on when I'm done testing it

MUYA
06-08-04, 06:38 PM
not very amazing stuff really?
I have such a board at home, I'm going to try to flash it with a 16 pipe BIOS later on when I'm done testing it
not for ATI cards...but NV...that why the hmmm...

ChrisRay
06-09-04, 04:33 PM
Well investigated this issue a bit further and nvidia contacted me regarding this issue.

Nvidia told me the card itself is defective with a bad bios, and they are shipping him a new card. ((though I think some of the info may have gotten mis understood in the hand me down)

The 6800 Non Ultra is a 12 pipeline chip. No Conspiracies :)

Chris

saturnotaku
06-09-04, 05:19 PM
Nice work, CR. :)

Sazar
06-09-04, 07:19 PM
it would still be nice for them to release an 8 pipe version though :)

if 2 quads are pooped in the manufacture than its certainly an area they can look to get some money instead of wasting the silicon... :)

and if its priced right it might be a good deal for OEM's and those of us who don't have mucho bucks...