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Pandora's Box
06-15-04, 02:48 PM
amd 64 3200 socket 754 1MB l2 cache
thermaltake venus 12 cpu cooler. (is this the best air cooler?)
corsair xms PC4000 3-4-4-8 (good?)
msi k8n neo platinum
bfg 6800 ultra
audigy 2 zs (already have)
wd raptor 74GB
wd 120GB SE IDE (already have)
tdk indi 880N DVDRW (already have)
Samsung DVDROM 16xDVD 48XCDROM
Antec SOHO 1000AMG Case, 5 case fans.
Thermaltake Silent Purepower 560 Watt Power Supply

Total Cost: around 1600 Dollars. good?

Obviously I plan on overclocking. How does the system look?

Im having doubts about the motherboard. Looking at a abit kv8 pro.

Sazar
06-15-04, 03:11 PM
consider going socket 939 if possible... admittedly you might be stuck with a lower l2 cache processor but there does not appear to be that much difference in that respect...

alternatively there is a huge memory bandwidth payoff and socket 939 boards seem to be more feature rich.

if thats not something that matters to you than its not a bad deal :)

I might suggest a different cooler but I haven't used the thermaltake version

EMunEeE
06-15-04, 03:39 PM
Maybe go dual 74GB Raptors in a RAID setup, if you have the funds. If you do or do not...I am very jealous :drooling:

Pandora's Box
06-15-04, 03:48 PM
yeah right now im saying no to a second raptor, but probably later in the summer when i finally order it i will probably do two things: add a second raptor, make it overnight shipping heh.


that msi k8n neo board is troubling me though. apparently its reporting incorrect temps for cpu for many users.

Sazar
06-15-04, 03:53 PM
the incorrect temps thing is apparently present for a few users who have flashed their bios's... not sure if its incorrect off the bat... might wanna ask |juicez| from these forums... I think he might have one...

I have the k8t800 version and some lads have reported the temps may be off after they flashed their bios... do check out if sckt 939 is in your budget though.. I think dual channel be prudent :)

Pandora's Box
06-15-04, 04:19 PM
is there really a performance boost with socket 939?

i would of thought that the 512l2 cache would even out performance.

Pandora's Box
06-15-04, 04:24 PM
hmm socket 939 or another wd raptor.

i think i will go with a second raptor 74gb.

AMD 64 3200+ 1MB L2 Cache, Socket 754
thermaltake venus 12 cpu cooler. (is this the best air cooler?)
corsair xms PC4000 3-4-4-8 (good?)
msi k8n neo platinum
BFG 6800 Ultra
audigy 2 zs (already have)
2 Western Digital Raptors 74GB each, RAID 0
1 Western Digital 120GB 8MB Cache EIDE (already have)
1 TDK INDI 880N DVDRW (already have)
Samsung DVDROM 16xDVD 48XCDROM
Antec SOHO 1000AMG Case, 5 case fans.
Thermaltake Silent Purepower 560 Watt Power Supply

Sazar
06-15-04, 05:13 PM
you are going from single channel to dual-channel so there is a boost...

given the synthetic numbers and my own experience going from single to dual channel on my canterwood based p4 system there is a difference...

in memory intensive situations/tasks you will also notice a decent improvement... anything noticeable is worth it :)

{Sniping}Waste
06-15-04, 05:15 PM
I would say S939
http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=328743

nvnews-reader
06-15-04, 06:15 PM
I'd drop both raptors and go with a 939 FX.

You'd end up with a much faster system and it would be easier to upgrade in the future with a 939.

UDawg
06-15-04, 06:32 PM
hmm socket 939 or another wd raptor.



This isn't even a comparison. Get the 939 bause the HDD you are just adding and you can do that later. With the mobo you are getting a whole new component. You don't need another HDD to get you going. ;)

Sazar
06-15-04, 06:52 PM
out of curiosity how much ram are you going with?

I am assuming 2x512 based on your system specs...

Pandora's Box
06-15-04, 07:08 PM
yeap 2x512.

so you think dropping raptor completely, and grabbing a 939fx would be better?

Pandora's Box
06-15-04, 07:13 PM
just revised my list:

Antec PlusView1000AMG Case (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=11-129-124)
5 Vantec 80mm fans (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=11-999-624)
Abit KV8 Pro K8T800 Pro Chipset (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=13-127-178)
PCI Firewire Card (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=15-104-218)
Thermaltake Silent PurePower 560Watt (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=17-153-015)
AMD 64 3200+ 1MB L2 Cache (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=19-103-413)
Two Western Digital Raptors, 74 Gigabytes each, operating in RAID 0 (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=22-144-160)
Thermaltake Venus 12 CPU Cooler (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=35-106-038)
OCZ PC4400 1 Gigabyte, Timings: 3-4-4-8 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-968&depa=0)
Samsung Black 16X DVD-ROM Drive 48xCDROM (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=27-151-039)

Sazar
06-15-04, 07:17 PM
if you are looking for max oc'ing headroom and performance you might as well go with the 939... the raptors are a nice add-on undoubtedly but you can always grab em later... :)

other than that your list is a decent system... cost seems a little high but its not bad overall...

{Sniping}Waste
06-15-04, 07:18 PM
You have to have a S939 A64 and the 3200+ is only a S754.
The cheepest S939 A64 is a 3500+
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-460&depa=1

Pandora's Box
06-15-04, 07:18 PM
socket 939 motherboard + 939 processor = expensive.

{Sniping}Waste
06-15-04, 07:21 PM
I wish AMD will release a S939 3000+ in the price rand of $220.
Alot of ppl would jump on that but maybe later that will happen.
The new K8T800Pro looks to be a great chipset and supports Ht up to 1000mhz.

Pandora's Box
06-15-04, 07:26 PM
just looked at some reviews of 939 vs 754. performance difference is like 2 points most of the time. not worth it.

Pandora's Box
06-16-04, 04:20 PM
anandtech did a review of a motherboard that does 283fsb x 8 multiplier! 100 percent stable!

Epox 8KDA3+ Motherboard
Cooler Master Praetorian Silver Case
Samsung Black 16X DVD 48X CDROM Drive
2 Western Digital Raptors 74Gigabyte in Raid 0
1 Western Digital 120MB 8MB Cache IDE
Thermaltake Silent PurePower 560 Watts
OCZ Performance Series PC4400 1 Gigabyte
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 1MB L2 Cache
Thermalright Copper Heatsink Model SLK948U with Thermaltake 90mm 79CFM Fan
TDK Indi 880N DVDRW 8X+/-R
BFG 6800 Ultra Overclocked
Audigy 2ZS


hmmm. 275x10 anybody? 2750 megahertz! drool. lol yeah right. fingers crossed though. the motherboard can do 350mhz max