View Full Version : I'm at a loss (PCIe or AGP)

07-02-04, 01:24 PM
well finally decided to upgrade my computer again (Wooo) :lame: and im looking at this mobo http://www.msicomputer.co.uk/Products.aspx?product_id=703500&cat_id=77 "MSI 915P-NEO2-PLAT" and a pentium 4 socket 775 to go with it but now im at a loss, i really want this graphics card http://www.msicomputer.co.uk/products.aspx?product_id=703443&cat_id=78
"NX6800 Ultra-T2D256" GF6800 Ultra yeah, but in the description of the card it says agp?! and on nvidias site the 6800 Ultra is described as PCIe optimized? is this bridged? and if so can i just fit this agp card into my PCIe socket? or do i need a now "old agp interface" mobo?

07-02-04, 01:39 PM
You need the AGP interface. This card won't fit into a PCI-E slot.

Have to agree that the PCI express support statement can make a person wonder. I checked out the BFG 6800 Ultra OC WC and it has the same statement. I don't know what value the "support" has unless there will be circuit routing to PCI-E bus in versions of motherboards with both AGP and PCI-E slots (some of these have been sighted already). Just my guess on this.

Hopefully, a PC guru will clarify what PCI express support means on these AGP slot cards.

07-02-04, 01:46 PM
yes i hope so, since this is very wierd....
i found this piece on the msi site in link provided earlier for the gfx card:
• Over 220m transistors
• Designed for PCI Express x16
• Supports PCI Express high-speed interconnect (HSI) technology for bidirectional
interconnect protocol conversion
• Full support of AGP 8X including Fast Writes and sideband addressing

07-02-04, 02:15 PM
mustang just so you know PCIX is not the same thing as PCI-express. PCIX is an older standard. Most ppl state PCI-E when shortening it.

07-02-04, 03:25 PM
Thanks for the info. Sure don't want to confuse things even more, eh!!