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Asfy
10-21-02, 08:11 PM
currently I am using
Intel Pentium3 800mhz, ASUS CUSL2, and 516mb memory ram.
and thinking of upgrading to newer/faster system.
Can anyone recommend me any decent settings? :(
I'm thinking of spending about $500-600
also, do I need to buy new set of memory rams for new CPU/mobo?
Thanks a bunch in advance.
oo, and CPU brand has to be pentium4, I always go by expensive yet stable settings :)
PS. im a computer newbie :(

Asfy
10-21-02, 08:15 PM
ah, wait. I have to buy new hard-drive also :(
so estimated total cost is about $550-700

thcdru2k
10-21-02, 08:44 PM
what kind of video card do you have right now? do you plan on upgrading your soundcard or just using the one you have now? do you want to upgrade your dvd or cd-rw or cd?

or do you mean $550-700 for a completely new system?

are u a computer newbie as in not knowing how to build a system? do you need it prebuilt?

also what will you be using the computer for? 3d gaming? rpg? fps? flight sim? sports?

3d modeling?

or just regular task?

Asfy
10-21-02, 09:13 PM
ill use the computer for mostly gaming :D
and I already have decent 3Dcard which is GF4 Ti4200 128mb DDR, and *useable* soundcard.
I'm going to get my brother or the store clerk(or any workers) to set up stuff.

thcdru2k
10-21-02, 09:37 PM
check out newegg.com

basically for a barebone system including the hd you'll need

case
cpu
motherboard
powersupply
memory
arctic silver 3
cpu heatsink/fan

-=DVS=-
10-22-02, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by Asfy
currently I am using
Intel Pentium3 800mhz, ASUS CUSL2, and 516mb memory ram.
and thinking of upgrading to newer/faster system.
Can anyone recommend me any decent settings? :(
I'm thinking of spending about $500-600
also, do I need to buy new set of memory rams for new CPU/mobo?
Thanks a bunch in advance.
oo, and CPU brand has to be pentium4, I always go by expensive yet stable settings :)
PS. im a computer newbie :(

mobo ( decent mainboard )
Abit NV7-133R nVIDIA nForce 415 88$
cpu ( decent cpu )
AMD Athlon XP 2000+ 266 FSB Retail w/Fan 3Yrs 134$
memory ( some cheap memory )
Apacer PC2100 512MB DDR 135$
case ( quality case me thinks :p )
Lian-Li PC-07 Aluminum Case NO PWR SUPPLY 109$
power supply ( Enermax quality power supply)
Enermax EG465P-VE 430W Pwr Supply 83$


all 549$ without shipping cost :rolleyes:
441$ without case if you keep old one ( should be ATX )
358$ without case and powersupply ( power supply should be at least 300W for todays hardware :p )

all this from , good site if you live in California :p
http://www.computerhq.com/


edited xp instead of mp , cheaper :p

-=DVS=-
10-22-02, 03:30 AM
oops forgot hard drive ( maxtor makes good harddrives love mine ATA 133)
Maxtor 60GB 133/7200 6Y060L0(MX60A7Y) 108$ :cool:

http://www.computerhq.com/store/store-detailspec.asp?type=retail&goodsid=4103

ReDeeMeR
10-22-02, 03:06 PM
Hey, is MP better then XP? what the diff anyway? sorry if sounds n00b'ish :p



Originally posted by DVS
mobo ( decent mainboard )
Abit NV7-133R nVIDIA nForce 415 88$
cpu ( decent cpu )
AMD Athlon MP 2000+ 266 FSB Retail w/Fan 3Yrs 187$
memory ( some cheap memory )
Apacer PC2100 512MB DDR 135$
case ( quality case me thinks :p )
Lian-Li PC-07 Aluminum Case NO PWR SUPPLY 109$
power supply ( Enermax quality power supply)
Enermax EG465P-VE 430W Pwr Supply 83$


all 602$ without shipping cost :rolleyes:
493$ without case if you keep old one ( should be ATX )
410$ without case and powersupply ( power supply should be at least 300W for todays hardware :p )

all this from , good site if you live in California :p
http://www.computerhq.com/

thcdru2k
10-22-02, 06:31 PM
mp is the multiprocessor version of xp. its not any better unless you plan on purchasing two of them and a mb capable of using mp.

LORD-eX-Bu
10-23-02, 12:23 PM
Eh, you don't want a monitor or speakers with it right? or did I miss something? I built mines for $835 but that was a while ago. The price should be down and some deals might be gone. Look around.:D

-=DVS=-
10-23-02, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by ReDeeMeR
Hey, is MP better then XP? what the diff anyway? sorry if sounds n00b'ish :p

oops me bad better xp cheaper :D

AMD Athlon XP 2000+ 266 FSB Retail w/Fan 3Yrs 134$ :p

LORD-eX-Bu
10-23-02, 12:55 PM
My friend bought a Athlon XP 2000+ system for about $400 with monitor and speakers included. I don't know from where but I'll try and ask. The only thing that sucks is that the HD is 40 gig and only 256 megs of PC2100 DDR and a GF2 MX. But with the money you would save you could buy yourself a NV30 or a 9700 if you wanted.:D

-=DVS=-
10-23-02, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by |TX|-LORD-EX-BU
My friend bought a Athlon XP 2000+ system for about $400 with monitor and speakers included. I don't know from where but I'll try and ask. The only thing that sucks is that the HD is 40 gig and only 256 megs of PC2100 DDR and a GF2 MX. But with the money you would save you could buy yourself a NV30 or a 9700 if you wanted.:D


yes but what monitor ? what speakers ? what other parts like mobo or case or power supply , ram ? :rolleyes:
good deals like that doesn't mean good quality , usually its cheapest parts :D



edit: also hardrive i suggested is good Maxtro ATA 133 60 gig :D

and all that for only 550$ :eek:

Neova
10-23-02, 04:57 PM
If you have the talent and balls to experiment, you can get a Celeron 1.3 GHZ based off of the Tualatin core and OC it in your existing system to 1.6 GHZ or faster (depending on luck and other factors). My current system:

Celeron 1.2 @ 1.488 GHZ (FSB limited... MB won't push above 124 FSB)
Asus CUBX MB
512 megs of SDRAM @ 3-2-2
PNY GF 4 Ti4200 64 megs

Definately a bargain for the price of the upgrades which was less than 150 bux before tax. The CPU is less than 50 bux and depending on the resolution and settings you play games at, it will mostly tide you over until Doom 3 comes out.

LORD-eX-Bu
10-23-02, 04:59 PM
Yeah, but I am thinkin' with what you said, when Doom 3 comes it, that CPU won't be good at all. For $183 you can have yourself a brand new 2.4 Ghz P4. Thats a great price!:D

Neova
10-23-02, 05:07 PM
|TX|-LORD-EX-BU,

That is true and I recommended the same to all of my friends but you have to add in a the price of a new MB and RAM at min. The funny thing is, after helping my friends upgrade to the these hotrod P4 + GF4 Ti4600 monsters all OC'ed to hell, they run their games at a max of 1280x1024 res with no AF, FSAA or eye candy turned up... sigh... and I also realized most people don't.

I should have also explained that I had paid less than 150 bux for both the new cpu + gf4 ti4200 (before tax) and would handle the above load with no problem.

Oh and when Doom3 comes out, unless he has an ATI 9700 Pro or faster video card with that p4 2.4 or faster cpu, he'll be stuck at a playable 800x600 (see CGW article about the resolution Doom3 was demonstrated to them). By that time, the money he saved could be used to purchase something more suited to play Doom 3 with all the eye candy, sound efx and features on and hopefully, at a higher res than 800x600.

But, it sure doesn't feel the same as buying a a shiny new P4 and fast video card though. To each their own I guess. ;)

LORD-eX-Bu
10-23-02, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Neova
|TX|-LORD-EX-BU,

That is true and I recommended the same to all of my friends but you have to add in a the price of a new MB and RAM at min. The funny thing is, after helping my friends upgrade to the these hotrod P4 + GF4 Ti4600 monsters all OC'ed to hell, they run their games at a max of 1280x1024 res with no AF, FSAA or eye candy turned up... sigh... and I also realized most people don't.

I should have also explained that I had paid less than 150 bux for both the new cpu + gf4 ti4200 (before tax) and would handle the above load with no problem.

Oh and when Doom3 comes out, unless he has an ATI 9700 Pro or faster video card with that p4 2.4 or faster cpu, he'll be stuck at a playable 800x600 (see CGW article about the resolution Doom3 was demonstrated to them). By that time, the money he saved could be used to purchase something more suited to play Doom 3 with all the eye candy, sound efx and features on and hopefully, at a higher res than 800x600.

But, it sure doesn't feel the same as buying a a shiny new P4 and fast video card though. To each their own I guess. ;)

Yup, but then again DOOM 3 engine isn't optimized at all yet. Remember the SOF II beta? ran like crap on even good systems but once the full version came out it ran silky smooth on even my P3 system. Anyways, thats not what we should be discussing, the matter at hand is the cpu and thing. I got the P4 2.4 Ghz for $192 and the motherboard(very good one too) for $78+shipping. Those prices have come down somewhat in the last few weeks and that is what I would recommend. But if lets say this guy decides to go for the 2.4 Ghz P4, I would recommend only the Aopen AX45-8x Motherboard. And I would get PC2700 or PC3000 DDR. PC3200 I think was a rip off for me, I bought it for $170 and it really isn't much of a difference. I got a PoxMax 500W PSU for $52 shipped and you can probably find it cheaper. It is the best PSU ever in my opinion. No flashy lights on the PSU, but it has all the features of the other $100+ 500W PSUs. Oh yeah, and the PowMAX retails for $140, so look around and you'll find one for less than $60. :D