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nvgt
07-11-04, 08:34 AM
I have a GeForce4 Ti42000 and I still use the older 42.01 drivers.

I've read in a few places that the NEW Nvidia drivers allow the video card to run at one speed in 2D mode and another speed in 3D mode.

Is this applicable to new GeForce 5 and up family cards or can I just install the new drivers and this will work with the GeForce4 family?

Thanks.

Slyder
07-11-04, 09:24 AM
Your still using the 42.01's ? Any reason why ?

I would get the latest offical drivers at the very least regardless what you may or may not have heard.

nvgt
07-11-04, 09:34 AM
the 4xxx series seem to be faster than the 5 and 6 for the geforce4.

the higher the driver number the slower the older card preform.

I think nvidia does this on puprose so people would upgrade.

Same thing happened on geforce2 after the geforce3 card come out the older cards seem to always loose frames with the higher driver versions. This widens the gap and make it seem like the new video card is MUCH faster than the previous generation.

People always get the latest driver thinking it will improve the frames but not all the time.

MUYA
07-11-04, 09:35 AM
i thought the seperate clocks in 2D and 3D was for FX generation and above?

nvgt
07-11-04, 09:37 AM
That's what I'm trying to confirm.

MUYA
07-11-04, 09:48 AM
yup I think the seperate 2d/3d clock thang is for FX generation up only.

Gator
07-11-04, 01:31 PM
i thought the seperate clocks in 2D and 3D was for FX generation and above?

Yes, the seperate clock speeds for 2D and 3D are only for the FX series or higher. I know that for a fact.

And for the GF4TI, I found the fastest driver was the 45.23 (http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp-2k_45.23.html). Only after that particular revision did my 3dmark score continue to go down when I owned a GF4TI.

nvgt
07-11-04, 02:59 PM
Thanks for the confirmation.

Thanks for the driver tip too.

DSC
07-11-04, 03:12 PM
Scores went down because Nvidia removed the 3dmark2001SE Nature "optimizations" which Unwinder found. Before 40.xx till 45.xx drivers, with 30.82 Ti4200 should get around 40+, with 40.xx till 45.xx it was around 60+ FPS, with 52.xx and above it's back to 40+.

Headbust
07-11-04, 07:49 PM
the 4xxx series seem to be faster than the 5 and 6 for the geforce4.

the higher the driver number the slower the older card preform.

I think nvidia does this on puprose so people would upgrade.

Same thing happened on geforce2 after the geforce3 card come out the older cards seem to always loose frames with the higher driver versions. This widens the gap and make it seem like the new video card is MUCH faster than the previous generation.

People always get the latest driver thinking it will improve the frames but not all the time.

without AA/AF yes the newer drivers are slower, with AA/AF though the 5x.xx and 6x.xx drivers are much faster than the 4x.xx for the G4TI series

Chode
07-11-04, 10:56 PM
I do driver evaluations over at the Neowin forums,

and I know for a fact that the 56.72 drivers are the fastest official drivers for an Asus GeForce 4 Ti 4800SE.

I also know that point sprite tests do not complete correctly in 3DMark2001SE when using any of the beta drivers.

Gator
07-12-04, 08:11 AM
I do driver evaluations over at the Neowin forums,

and I know for a fact that the 56.72 drivers are the fastest official drivers for an Asus GeForce 4 Ti 4800SE.

I also know that point sprite tests do not complete correctly in 3DMark2001SE when using any of the beta drivers.

Well my first hand experience, my Gainward GF4 TI4400 3dmark2k1 score with the 45.23 drivers was nearly 2000 marks higher than with the 56.72 drivers. And considering the TI4400 and TI4800SE are nearly the same card except for the AGP speed, I would have to say the 45.23 is the best performing driver for GF4TI. :kill:

rewt
07-12-04, 08:38 AM
45.23, best performing? Maybe. Full of new enhancements, features, and bugfixes? Not a chance. I'd go with 61.71.

Chode
07-12-04, 09:22 AM
And I'd agree with you if they were official.

The way that point sprites don't render correctly with that driver leaves me uneasy.....what the hell IS a point sprite, anyway?

Gator
07-12-04, 10:04 AM
45.23, best performing? Maybe. Full of new enhancements, features, and bugfixes? Not a chance. I'd go with 61.71.

Oh I never said 45.23 was the best driver, or that it was bug free or feature rich, only that I found it to be the fastest driver for GF4TI. The only reason I was using the 56.72 driver at all with my old GF4TI was because it has much better Nview support. I almost always recommend the newest driver for any piece of hardware, but that doesn't mean it's the fastest one ;)

rewt
07-12-04, 10:09 AM
I understand fully bro. Just providing my opinion thats all :)

coldpower27
07-20-04, 11:13 PM
Unfortunately atill using the 56.72 for me, any of the 6x.xx FW give me the shader problems with water in FarCry :lame:

ricercar
07-22-04, 03:09 PM
considering the TI4400 and TI4800SE are nearly the same card except for the AGP speedActually there are performance differences in AGP4× mode, too. NV28 added some bugfixes to the NV25 silicon, in addition to adding AGP 3.0 (AGP8×) compliance.