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Clay
07-15-04, 10:38 AM
I just finished uploading the few last minute updates to my review.

http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/bfg_geforce_6800_ultra_oc/index.shtml

Feel free to post any questions or feedback here. :)

|JuiceZ|
07-15-04, 10:40 AM
Hey who's this Clay guy anyways? :p

Clay
07-15-04, 10:54 AM
Hey who's this Clay guy anyways? :p
I've gotta keep you guys on your toes...next week's name shall be... "Ferdinand" :D

|JuiceZ|
07-15-04, 11:05 AM
heh, enjoyed the review man ;)

Only thing I wished you'd done is posted some results from an o'c XT PE along w/ the o'c 6800U. Granted nvidia cards have generally had more head room when it comes to o'cing, still would have been interesting though. And you're absolutely right about the potential for the geforce 6 series because we know what nvidia's driver team is capable of. Perhaps we'll see an update to the review shortly after the *official* 6800 drivers are released next week? :naughty:

Clay
07-15-04, 11:13 AM
heh, enjoyed the review man ;)

Only thing I wished you'd done is posted some results from an o'c XT PE along w/ the o'c 6800U. Granted nvidia cards have generally had more head room when it comes to o'cing, still would have been interesting though. And you're absolutely right about the potential for the geforce 6 series because we know what nvidia's driver team is capable of. Perhaps we'll see an update to the review shortly after the *official* 6800 drivers are released next week? :naughty:

Thanks. Yes, I would have liked to OC'd the X800XT PE but time didn't permit it in this case. I was up laaaaate all of last week as it was. :type: ;)

EDIT: Sorry, forgot to also mention that I made a concious decision not to include the ATI OC'd not solely based on timeframe but also because the review is about the 6800UOC and not the XTPE. I just wanted a reference point and to then show how far the 6800UOC could be pushed and how that compared to the default clocks of the XTPE. In other words, this review was never intended to be a direct "head-to-head shootout". :)

|JuiceZ|
07-15-04, 11:16 AM
Dedication, now thats what I like to see! :D

rewt
07-15-04, 11:20 AM
Nice work Clay :)

Funny how you can compare nVidia's 4x AF against ATI's 16x AF. nVidia 4x looks better to me, lol.

Clay
07-15-04, 11:21 AM
Nice work Clay :)

Funny how you can compare nVidia's 4x AF against ATI's 16x AF. nVidia 4x looks better to me, lol.
Thanks. That's why I went that route in the comparison. After staring :eek: for hours and hours at those screenshots I kept coming back to that fact/impression/opinion.

MUYA
07-15-04, 11:33 AM
Good job clay ;)

Clay
07-15-04, 11:50 AM
Good job clay ;)Doh! I forgot to thank you, check last sentence of last page now. ;)

MUYA
07-15-04, 11:53 AM
Doh! I forgot to thank you, check last sentence of last page now. ;)

Pah I did nothing but bother ya when you were writing up :D

bwahahahahahahahah


:p

EMunEeE
07-15-04, 11:55 AM
Nice review Clay. The GeForce 6800U is a mammoth...wow.

nippyjun
07-15-04, 11:55 AM
Nice review.

Odral
07-15-04, 12:10 PM
Very nice review Clay. I'am now looking forward to my BFG Ultra even more , should be here today :)

Mike1357
07-15-04, 12:13 PM
Thats a good review! Like how you did the screenshot highlights and comparisons. it really makes me want to go out and get the bfg 6800 but then i realize that i DO NOT have the money for it :X lol

anzak
07-15-04, 12:31 PM
Thats the best comparison between the two cards I've rever read. Excellent job. :thumbsup:

DarkKeeper
07-15-04, 12:43 PM
Nice review! Had to read it while doing ten other things, but finally finished.

UDawg
07-15-04, 03:24 PM
Thanks for your time and effort Clay on your BFG review. I have now made my decission on which card I will get.

I was talking to Rage last night on Ventrilo and he introduced me to the GT but this solidified it.

:thumbsup:


This link doesn't work on page 5

http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/bfg_geforce_6800_ultra_oc/dirt_nv16_ati16.shtml

DiscipleDOC
07-15-04, 03:26 PM
Yea..I agree...the article/review is a good one.

Clay
07-15-04, 03:33 PM
Thanks guys and thanks for the dead link report UDawg...fixing now...

EDIT: Okay, that link is now fixed. Thanks agian UDawg...now I'm off to slap my "proof readers" with a trout. :D

SH64
07-15-04, 06:41 PM
Well done Max !!

i'm surprised to see that the o/ced 6800 is around 40% faster in FarCry's Carriar demo @1600x1200x4aax16af than the regular 6800Ultra . (26fps to 36fps)
are you quite sure about these numbers Clay ??!

http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/bfg_geforce_6800_ultra_oc/page3.shtml

Sazar
07-15-04, 06:49 PM
nice review...

woulda perhaps been prudent to include a horizontal tabulating method rather than vertical as it allows for easier corrolation but other than that a nice job...

/me plans to read it again a bit later...

haven't read all the fine details yet :D

Clay
07-15-04, 07:29 PM
@SH64 I'll double check those here in an hour or so and let you know. I did double check everything before posting but I was up some nights quite late. ;)

@Sazar Yeah, I tried that at first...I'm experimenting with different ideas but settled on being able to see the resolutions on same line. It's a personal preference really and I might add both styles in my next review so user has the choice.

Would everyone agree that this style is easier/faster to read than traditional bar graphs though? A bar/line graph of this kind of data gets a bit squirrely to decipher IMO.

Thanks for the feedback everyone. :)

Clay
07-15-04, 07:40 PM
Well done Max !!

i'm surprised to see that the o/ced 6800 is around 40% faster in FarCry's Carriar demo @1600x1200x4aax16af than the regular 6800Ultra . (26fps to 36fps)
are you quite sure about these numbers Clay ??!

http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/bfg_geforce_6800_ultra_oc/page3.shtml
Okay, here is the result from FRAPS' log file:

The lines in red indicate the note that I prepend in the FRAPS log file before each run so I don't lose track.

1600 4/16 3.0
2004-07-10 02:08:26 - FarCry
Frames: 1573 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 26.217 - Min: 15 - Max: 96

1600 4/16 455/1250
2004-07-10 02:41:06 - FarCry
Frames: 2162 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 36.033 - Min: 20 - Max: 111

I admit that this does sound high. I recall running it again at the time but I will triple check ASAP. I still have the XTPE in my machine right now though.

EDIT: I neglected to label that OC'd run with "3.0" but it is, in fact the 3.0 section of my FRAPS log file.

Sazar
07-15-04, 07:49 PM
@Sazar Yeah, I tried that at first...I'm experimenting with different ideas but settled on being able to see the resolutions on same line. It's a personal preference really and I might add both styles in my next review so user has the choice.

Would everyone agree that this style is easier/faster to read than traditional bar graphs though? A bar/line graph of this kind of data gets a bit squirrely to decipher IMO.

Thanks for the feedback everyone. :)

yah it is a better idea and dave does something similar when he writes up reviews...

might be an idea to test out a coupla different ways of displaying results to make it stand out more? in excel like you have the option of coloring fields so as to contrast them... might work better...

just an idea... :)

once i got used to it it was easier but my eyes were still wandering some (hope you don't think I am being too harsh... just providing feedback m8 )

-edit-

didn't see the other thread on this topic... :)

are the 2 gonna be merged or are they gonna remain separate?