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Sazar
07-19-04, 12:13 AM
I used to think only professional atheletes in sports such as baseball took drugs on a regular basis in order to enhance their performances...

overall in a game such as baseball drugs should not pay much of a role since you need to have a lot of skills in order to be able to compete...

however with all the drugs rumours circulating round lance armstrong and american atheletes (specially some top names competeing for the olympics) its becoming more and more likely that there may well be evidence of an almost east-germanesque magnitude of doping and covering up by the powers that be...

I am a HUGE sports fan and nothing pisses me off more than cheats...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/olympics/2004/07/18/bc.eu.spt.ath.doping.us.ap/index.html?cnn=yes

Track and field's governing body recommended Sunday that the U.S. 1,600-meter relay team, led by Michael Johnson, be stripped of its gold medal from the Sydney Olympics as part of the Jerome Young doping case.

The International Olympic Committee is expected to endorse the recommendation by the International Association of Athletics Federations, probably before next month's Athens Olympics.

brings back memories of Ben Johnson in Seoul...

there are atheletes who indeed are taking drugs and either they just haven't been caught yet or the technology used to detect drugs is lagging behind the masking agents used to cover the same...

there is the stated "innocent till proven guilty" clause whenever such accusations are placed... but the more one hears about these things the more there are doubts and the more tainted becomes the careers of atheletes who indeed excelled...

the news article I presented outlines the fact that Michael Johnson (whom I hold in very high regard) stands to lose his gold medal due to the folly of one of his team-mates...

IF indeed there has been as wide-spread a use of drugs and masking agents as appears to be the case than I am very very ashamed for the atheletes... and the fans of the sport will be right to voice their displeasure...

not only do they taint themselves when representing america abroad but they bring (unfairly) taunts of "cheat" to all american competitors... the pressure is already tremendous to bring home olympic gold... this doesnt make it any easier...

people like lance armstrong and muthiah muralitharan (not accused of using drugs but one of the more famous "cheats" in the world) are accused of cheating coz they are so much more superior to other atheletes in their field... and all the more credit to them...

the rest of the cheats should be flattered to have such luminaries mentioned with them...

:lame:

MUYA
07-19-04, 12:42 AM
Lets just have a Drug Olympics....an olympic where we have all atheletes are welcome to participate even if they take more steroids than a horse. And special world record books too. Then that would done and over with. :retard:

Sazar
07-19-04, 12:43 AM
you never know.. we might be closer to that than you think...

MUYA
07-19-04, 12:56 AM
U are probably right. However as an analytical chemist before..I also know how hard it can be for a lab to setup a new routine assay run to detect the so called compounds (unknown at that) and it's probably not ever possible to detect all cheats etc with limitations due to sensitivty levels of the detectors used in a run. So heck, to hell with dope testing lets have a Druglympics

Sazar
07-19-04, 12:58 AM
should be held in bogota/colombia :cool:

:smoking2:

for obvious reasons :cool:

MUYA
07-19-04, 01:03 AM
:udawg:

hmm steroids + cocaine...hmm interesting :D

nVidi0t
07-19-04, 05:36 AM
The fact of the matter is that most of high level professional track and field athletes are taking performance enhancing drugs. Having taken them myself and being in that world for a time I know that it is very normal to be cycling various steroids during training for events.

The thing is, it's all about the timing. Steroids, like a drugs have a half-life, so they need a certain amount of time to work their way out of your system. You can run powerful anabolic steroids such as any testosterone until about 2 weeks before a competition, and steroids which increase red blood cell count (methandrostanolone) until about 4 days before an event. Some cannot even be detected such as Growth Hormone and Anavar (Oxymetholone if I remember correctly). So you can see that even people who test negative may be juiced to the max. The traces in your system will dissapear MUCH faster than the gains in strength, stamina and muscle mass will.

People who get caught are really just victims of bad timing. The fact is, most people are doing it, but just playing it a little safer.

Sazar
07-19-04, 05:39 AM
yah... thats pretty much what most of the articles I have been reading pertaining to drugs in sports have been saying..

some of the top atheletes in the world just happen to have some of the best experts @ masking the drugs they do take and hence they can proclaim not having failed a single drugs test...

nVidi0t
07-19-04, 05:52 AM
Yep, they pay specialists a fortune to plan and administer their drugs. Once I went to a local endocronologist for a check of my liver function. I quizzed him about the topic of sports drugs and he told me that over 2/3 of his clients were young athletes.