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majortom
07-23-04, 01:48 PM
Im conflicted on which card to buy, a 9800 pro or a fx 5900 xt (both 128 mb ram). the fx is cheaper but 9800 pro has better iq and framerates. of course there is doom 3 and hl2 which favor nvidia. can you guys help me? :drooling:

Lfctony
07-23-04, 02:08 PM
I would go with the 9800 Pro, I had one in my PC and now in my brother's PC, I liked it better than my previous 5900.

takuma
07-23-04, 02:55 PM
Well I never used a 9800pro but have a 5900xt and it is alright but i know the 9800pro would be much better. Also hl2 favors ATI.

ragejg
07-23-04, 03:13 PM
takuma that was a worthless post, saying you've never used a 9800P but then saying it's better than another card in the same sentence? C'mon, d00d, jeebus.

You could have at least evened out the bias meter by also mentioning that Doom3 prefer's nVidia.

I do realize that a 9800P can outperform the 5900XT in stock trim. BUT then there's all the BIOS mods etc that have helped XT's easily reach 5900U levels of performance... factor that in, plus the fact that as far as OpenGL performance is concerned, the nv cards have a distinct advantage over ATI. Then theres digital vibrance.


The ATI card also features a goodie that nv does not: temporal AA.

I'm just trying to give another angle on this... I have owned a couple 5900XT's, and a 9700Pro (basically a downclocked 9800Pro, in retrospect... dang useless F-buffer), and both have their advantages. ... and disadvantages.


majortom: what games will you be playing?

mattkenn_4545
07-23-04, 03:28 PM
neither get a 6800nu for ~$300 and easily beat both cards also get a evga card to if you want to upgrade in the comming months you can use their stepup program.

majortom
07-24-04, 02:16 AM
majortom: what games will you be playing?


doom 3 for one thing. and hl2. i already have thief 3, far cry, and of course ut 2004 (and halo, duh). now im not too prickly about frame rates, as long as i can crank everything up to 16x12 with all eye candy on and get over 60 fps (though in doom, i could do with 40-50). i dont know of any other game thats coming out that i would be interested in except maybe stalker. but by the time any new games come out i'll have a new system by then (1 year). and i did just order an msi radeon 9800 pro 128m, i heard taht it had good mem and a r360 core so i could oc it to xt levels. :)

Carbon Unit
07-24-04, 02:23 AM
Neither, I would get the 6800NU

anzak
07-24-04, 02:29 AM
The Radeon 9800 pro is an awesome deal for under $200 and it's raw Pixelshader 2.0 performance is a good 2 times that of the the FX 5900XT. The FX cards are fine for anything less than far cry but they choke on anything more (DirectX9 wise). It would be crazy (IMO) buy an FX now knowing the huge issues they have in Pixel shader 2.0.

jAkUp
07-24-04, 02:30 AM
Yes, 9800 Pro is a nicer card, but see if you can spend a little more and get a 6800NU.. much better card :)

Sazar
07-24-04, 02:34 AM
takuma that was a worthless post, saying you've never used a 9800P but then saying it's better than another card in the same sentence? C'mon, d00d, jeebus.

You could have at least evened out the bias meter by also mentioning that Doom3 prefer's nVidia.

I do realize that a 9800P can outperform the 5900XT in stock trim. BUT then there's all the BIOS mods etc that have helped XT's easily reach 5900U levels of performance... factor that in, plus the fact that as far as OpenGL performance is concerned, the nv cards have a distinct advantage over ATI. Then theres digital vibrance.


The ATI card also features a goodie that nv does not: temporal AA.

I'm just trying to give another angle on this... I have owned a couple 5900XT's, and a 9700Pro (basically a downclocked 9800Pro, in retrospect... dang useless F-buffer), and both have their advantages. ... and disadvantages.


majortom: what games will you be playing?

bias meter :D thats a kewl term...

/me plans to remember it..

doom3 on the last-gen marchitecture performs almost the same or in favor of ati's product IIRC...

wrt to everything I would have to say the 9800pro was a better buy... stock...

anyways majortom.. I am with the rest of the guys... save yer pennies for a 6800GT

majortom
07-24-04, 02:53 AM
ok, you guys should realize that im not going to shell out 400-500 dollars on a video card that will be about 150 dollars in a year or two. next to cpu's, i'd say in my opinion that vid cards are the fastest to drop in price. im not an extreme gamer who has to have the fastest everything all the time. i'd say that im more of a moderate gamer (used to be more extreme, into oc and cooling and stuff, but stopped once i got a job :lame: ). and im hoping that the 9800 pro will keep me happy until i can only play games at 20-30 frames. by then i hope that i can afford to buy one of those dual card setups from alienware :clap: complete with nv70xxxx or whatever will be at the top then.

jAkUp
07-24-04, 02:56 AM
Well yes, but a 6800NU goes for about $299, has 12 pipelines and will surely play great in doom3 :)

garikfox
07-24-04, 03:44 AM
5900XT if u can find one.
or
YES
6800NU or lke me GT :)

saintall99
07-24-04, 08:05 AM
9800p is much better than 5900xt, I'd used both of them.

Skrot
07-24-04, 08:33 AM
I can't really fault my Leadtek 5900XT. It overclocks stably to 450/850, and I could probably push it a bit faster without instability or artifacts. Games just work well. I haven't seen a 9800pro running, but the 5900XT is still a very solid buy.

Gator
07-24-04, 08:56 AM
I've tried both, and the R9800Pro is definetly faster. But starting at $175, the FX5900XT is still an excellent deal.

However if you are in the market for a new card, I'd recommend saving a little bit more and get a 6800NU instead. It blows both cards out of the water, and sell between $250 and $290.

NightFire
07-24-04, 08:57 AM
I'd say, if you've got the money, get a 6800nu. Only $100 cheaper than a 9800 pro. However, I'm running a 9800, and I'm not complaining.
Never tried a 5900 of any kind, so I won't be commenting on which one to get.