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majortom
08-05-04, 10:42 PM
i just got my vid card a couple of weeks ago, and wanted to know when i could safely (relatively speaking) try overclocking it. i know that i should give it enough time to burn it in (whatever that means) but how long should that be? (newb)

ragejg
08-05-04, 10:51 PM
1st day is ok
2nd day is ok
3rd day is ok...

..and so on and so forth...


(as long as you're satisfied with your system's stability, basically)

:)

saturnotaku
08-05-04, 10:52 PM
The whole video card burn in thing is a myth as far as I'm concerned. There's no reason to wait on overclocking, and since you've had yours a couple months I don't see any reason why you couldn't start now.

For safe overclocking levels, start going up in 5 MHz increments on the core and memory until you get either lockups or artifacts. Most 9800 Pro cards can hit 400/360 pretty easily so you can start from there.

mustrum
08-06-04, 05:24 AM
OC right away. MY x800 pro ran @pro for 1 hour only to see if it works and what it's performance is with several benchmarks. Then i flashed it'S bios.
:dance:

schuey74
08-06-04, 11:05 AM
The whole video card burn in thing is a myth as far as I'm concerned. There's no reason to wait on overclocking, and since you've had yours a couple months I don't see any reason why you couldn't start now.
You may see slight drops in temps after a couple of days as the thermal compound settles, but this should have little to no effect on your oc. These vpus are tested in ovens to temps well beyond anything they'll get to in your pc case - burn in is nothing but a myth. :)

majortom
08-06-04, 11:53 AM
well, i cant read the gpu temp, as there's no gauge. however, im using the "stock" heatsink, although its the heatsink that msi provided (its aluminum, i think and covers the entire front and back of the gpu.) and i havent added anything to it. should i try to replace the thermal compound in it with my own (arctic silver)? btw, i tried o'c the mem the other day with atitool and brought it as high as 372 before i stopped it out fear that it would die (from 340). im sure it can go much higher. i will try the core this weekend.

mustrum
08-06-04, 01:13 PM
Burn in is only working on CPUs. What you do is clock the CPU very low and give it high voltage. If you burn in an AMD Athlon XP with 2 volts vcore it will OC higher at 1.85 everyday use. This is no myth.
No need to say it's extremely dangerous and will shorten the lifetime of the CPU.
Maybe burning in a GPU at high voltage might work as well but i highly doubt it.

Overkill
08-06-04, 10:19 PM
Like one second.When I bought mine first thing I did is o/c.Just to test it.If card works fine I mean overclocked than it is ok if not back to the store...that's mine policy.

ChrisRay
08-06-04, 10:54 PM
i just got my vid card a couple of weeks ago, and wanted to know when i could safely (relatively speaking) try overclocking it. i know that i should give it enough time to burn it in (whatever that means) but how long should that be? (newb)



People wait before overclocking their systems? wow.. I didnt even let windows my boot my 2500+ As a 2500+ and immediately OCed the memory on my 6800NU..

mustrum
08-07-04, 05:07 AM
People wait before overclocking their systems? wow.. I didnt even let windows my boot my 2500+ As a 2500+ and immediately OCed the memory on my 6800NU..
That's the spirit. Same situation here except i have a VIVO@XT.
HArdware WANTS to be overclocket i know it!
:wonder:

NightFire
08-07-04, 11:28 AM
Don't need to wait for OC'ing.

Oh wait. That's what everyone else has been saying.

Ok. I'll offer a contrasting point of view as to not waste my post:

You must wait at least 3 years, or when you warranty expires, whichever is sooner, and then you can OC the card. By that time, I think a good OC would do some good anyway.

Woodelf
08-07-04, 08:31 PM
Burn in is only working on CPUs. What you do is clock the CPU very low and give it high voltage. If you burn in an AMD Athlon XP with 2 volts vcore it will OC higher at 1.85 everyday use. This is no myth.
No need to say it's extremely dangerous and will shorten the lifetime of the CPU.
Maybe burning in a GPU at high voltage might work as well but i highly doubt it.

I agree, It is no myth for cpu's. I have seen proof that a new cpu could overclock more after a 24Hr burn in. As for gpu's, IMO they generally don't have the voltage adjustments and cooling required to be comparable to a cpu burn in.
Possibly a watercooled card with a volt mod may benefit from a burn in more.

evilchris
08-07-04, 09:13 PM
I agree, It is no myth for cpu's. I have seen proof that a new cpu could overclock more after a 24Hr burn in. As for gpu's, IMO they generally don't have the voltage adjustments and cooling required to be comparable to a cpu burn in.
Possibly a watercooled card with a volt mod may benefit from a burn in more.

CPU's are operated at full spec for 72 hours at Intel and AMD in a harsh manner you could never duplicate at home before being packaged. This is done for testing purposes, not burn in ( since there is no such thing ), but goes way beyond anything you can throw at a CPU at home. They don't fab them and immediately throw them in a box. "burn in" is placebo effect.

Woodelf
08-07-04, 09:21 PM
CPU's are operated at full spec for 72 hours at Intel and AMD in a harsh manner you could never duplicate at home before being packaged. This is done for testing purposes, not burn in ( since there is no such thing ), but goes way beyond anything you can throw at a CPU at home. They don't fab them and immediately throw them in a box. "burn in" is placebo effect.
Then explain how my xp2600+ would not (under any circumstances) go above 2.5 GHZ untill I burned in for 24 Hours if it's just a "placebo effect" ?.

evilchris
08-07-04, 09:27 PM
Coincidence. It might have been hot the 1st day wherever your computer is, who knows. My statement is based on being formally educated in engineering. Your chip was operated at AMD under much harsher conditions than you could ever produce in your "burn in". The characteristics of the chip did not change whatsoever as a result of what you did. Intel and AMD would agree here too and they know a bit =)

Woodelf
08-07-04, 09:35 PM
Coincidence. It might have been hot the 1st day wherever your computer is, who knows. My statement is based on being formally educated in engineering. Your chip was operated at AMD under much harsher conditions than you could ever produce in your "burn in". The characteristics of the chip did not change whatsoever as a result of what you did. Intel and AMD would agree here too and they know a bit =)
I'm refrigerated, there are no changes in temp.

"formally educated in engineering" So You haven't proven it wrong, You were told it. Well I saw it for my self. Perhaps You should try it before saying it can't be done. :)