redhat 8 no audio for the nforce i810

[okdokay]

Hi,
I have redhat 8 installed on a MSI K7N420. I have downloaded all the nvidia src drivers. I installed the video drivers and have my nvidia card working (not the integrated one) I downloaded the nforce unified src drivers made them and then did a make make install. Afterwhich it kuzu found my integrated nic (the integrated sound and usb was found prior to these drivers) However I am not getting any sound. Redhat has
Vendor: nVidia Corporation
Model: nForce Audio
Module: i810_audio
However any program i run that makes sound i get either a sound device not configured or check that another application isn't using it. All generic errors. Any ideas on what I could do or where to check?
Thanks in advance.

[Klaus-P]

Check your /etc/modules.conf (or config.modules)

about the line

alias sound-slot-1 i810_audio

then try a "depmode -a" and then
"modprobe i810_audio"

or at first a "insmod i810_audio"

[okdokay]

when i add those lines to my modules.conf

alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
alias usb-controller usb-ohci
alias sound-slot-1 i810_audio
post-install sound-slot-1 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
pre-remove sound-slot-1 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
alias eth0 3c59x
alias char-major-195 NVdriver
alias eth1 nvnet

I get errors on lines i add your suggestions
also when i manually do an insmod i810_audio i get:
[root@localhost jgreenaw]# /sbin/insmod i810_audio
Using /lib/modules/2.4.18-17.8.0/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o
/lib/modules/2.4.18-17.8.0/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o: unresolved symbol
ac97_probe_codec_R84601c2b
/lib/modules/2.4.18-17.8.0/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o: unresolved symbol
ac97_set_adc_rate_R5307368c
/lib/modules/2.4.18-17.8.0/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o: unresolved symbol
ac97_set_dac_rate_R42924aaa

any ideas?
Thanks in advance.

[Klaus-P]

ac97_codec is a mixer module, you need it.

check your gcc compiler version "gcc -v" and that compiler version which
has been used to compile your system kernel and other loadable moduls via a
"cat /proc/version ".

Try also a "/sbin/insmod -f i810_audio" and then start the mixer, if sound is
working, fine. If not, try to download the respective nforce package
rpm with PRE-COMPILED drivers for Redhat 8.0.

[okdokay]

i did a:
[root@localhost jgreenaw]# /sbin/depmod -v | grep ac97
user function /lib/modules/2.4.18-17.8.0/kernel/drivers/sound/ac97.o
user function /lib/modules/2.4.18-17.8.0/kernel/drivers/sound/ac97_codec.o
/lib/modules/2.4.18-17.8.0/kernel/drivers/sound/ac97.o
/lib/modules/2.4.18-17.8.0/kernel/drivers/sound/ac97_codec.o

so i have them,
I also did a:
[root@localhost jgreenaw]# gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/3.2/specs
Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --disable-checking --host=i386-redhat-linux --with-system-zlib --enable-__cxa_atexit
Thread model: posix
gcc version 3.2 20020903 (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)
[root@localhost jgreenaw]# cat /proc/version
Linux version 2.4.18-17.8.0 (bhcompile@porky.devel.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.2 20020903 (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)) #1 Tue Oct 8 11:48:09 EDT 2002

so those are the same.
Additionally what I don't get is that there isn't any errors when redhat installs or configures the device, in fact it doesn't look like there should be anything wrong with it.
(for anyone worrying i tried all plugs, there is power, and the speakers are new)
Is there any service that could grabbing it? i checked esd, i didn't see it running.
Are there any configuration displays that i could provide that would help debug?
thanks in advance.

[Klaus-P]

Ohh, this all seems to be really a bit strange.
And the module 'soundcore' (lsmod should show it) is also running?

Well, let's check whether or not
you can hear at least a bit of a cuckoo cry in your headphone or speaker:
I attach you a very small wav.file with a big frequency change in sound.

run "cat /dev/dsp0 > <this file>" and/or
"cat /dev/audio0 > <this file>"

as root and listen. I've named it "test.txt".

[Klaus-P]

Here the attachment

[Klaus-P]

run "cat /dev/dsp0 > <this file>" and/or
"cat /dev/audio0 > <this file>"

Oh , sorry, my apologize...

i mean

"cat <this file> > /dev/dsp0" etc,...

[okdokay]

here is my lsmod listing
Module Size Used by Tainted: P
i810_audio 25224 0 (unused)
ac97_codec 13416 0 [i810_audio]
sr_mod 18168 0 (autoclean)
soundcore 6500 2 (autoclean) [i810_audio]
NVdriver 1149152 10 (autoclean)
autofs 13348 0 (autoclean) (unused)
3c59x 30608 1
iptable_filter 2412 0 (autoclean) (unused)
ip_tables 14840 1 [iptable_filter]
ide-scsi 10512 0
scsi_mod 107240 2 [sr_mod ide-scsi]
ide-cd 33608 0
cdrom 33696 0 [sr_mod ide-cd]
mousedev 5524 2
keybdev 2976 0 (unused)
hid 22244 0 (unused)
input 5920 0 [mousedev keybdev hid]
usb-ohci 21288 0 (unused)
usbcore 77056 1 [hid usb-ohci]
ext3 70400 2
jbd 52212 2 [ext3]

I am at work right now so I am going to try your sound bit in about a half hour. (i am ssh'ing into my machines from work)
Thanks again for your help.
joe

[okdokay]

but something i did from work did it, and what ever it was i got from you so thanks, when i reboot we'll see if it stays if not i'll just go through this again.
Thanks again.
it might have been the modprobe i810_audio
joe

[okdokay]

i have soldier of fortune and I am not getting any sound now, the driver it is using is alsound, i am not sure what that is but does this conflict with my setting?
thanks
joe

[okdokay]

the driver it is using is openAL, i don't know what this is.

[Klaus-P]

Hmm, now it seem you've also installed the alsa driver package on that
machine. Available at www.alsa-project.org

If that's the case you may run "alsa.conf". With a bit luck
it can automatically recognize your sound device and then also configure
all the rest of config and driver stuff. But keep in mind that not all
alsa drivers are supporting full duplex running. This means those which can
only do a half-duplex do not support a 'simultaneous' audio recording and
playback.

[halibut007]

I am having the same problem. No audio on a K7n420 Pro board. I am compiling from tar and also src.rpm. tried them both. I get the unresolved symbol for ac97 also.

In gnome I can open the sound card detection program and it lists nforce audio i810_audio twice.

Any help is appreciated.

[okdokay]

/sbin/modprobe i810_audio
hope it helps
Joe

[okdokay]

I have not got the sound working for my soldier of fortune game yet.

[FluoDude]

I have a MSI KT333 Ultra with (I think) a via vt8233a southbridge what includes Realtek
ALC650 sound.
I just installed Redhat 8 and got my geforce 4 working with twinview, my last problem is this sound thing, when I use the audiodetection tool it detect the vt8233 but no sound , in no aplication , also not possible to start mixer

Everything looks right , but, no sound, .... ???

[Klaus-P]

Hmm well, according to my soundcard list, VT8233, VIA can be run
with the ALSA driver "VIA VT 8233 (South Bridge)". The driver (source) is contained in the package
"alsa-driver-0.9.0rc3.tar.bz2" available from ALSA or probably even on your redhat CDs and
hopefully even precompiled for your system. Install if possible the pre-compiled version of
the ALSA package and then run "alsa.conf" as root.

[FluoDude]

I've already heared from it and downloaded the driver package, but in the readme it told about make , compiling and stuf , I tried but the make part didn't work, I'd realy prefere rpm's but and since you wrote about such precompiled stuff, .... I just don't know where to find them..

please help .

thx FluoDude

[Klaus-P]

Unfortunately i've not Redhat, but i think most of the linux distributions have a installation and
package configuration tool, for searching cards, basic network config, install and uninstall packages
and so forth. I've just checked my alsa.rpm package on suse 8.0, sorry my fault, alsaconf is a suse script
does not belong to alsa. Nevertheless Redhat will probably have something similar for the user, i guess.

Did you have consulted your Redhat handbook about sound configuration? There you should find the name of the
appropriate package or packages.

As for compiling ALSA package. Hm yes this would be the most appropriate methode. But then it
is necessary to check a lot of stuff about your linux kernel configuration, installed kernel sources, header files, compiler
package and version numbers and so on.

[FluoDude]

I followed the verry nice instruction found on the alsa website , I just did'nt find them before, you have to go to the available soundcarts and the in the list click on them.

I'm now listening to Our House from Madness

Thx a lot Nvidia guys

[k0fcc]

Originally posted by halibut007
I am having the same problem. No audio on a K7n420 Pro board. I am compiling from tar and also src.rpm. tried them both. I get the unresolved symbol for ac97 also.

In gnome I can open the sound card detection program and it lists nforce audio i810_audio twice.

Any help is appreciated.

I'm having this exact problem. No ALSA on my machine either. I've also used the standard RPMS to no avail. I am on the updated 2.4.18-17.8.0 kernel.
When I run modprobe i810_Audio my machine locks and I get acquainted with the reset button.

Bummer.

Everything is correct as far as the documentation and setup goes. I just get no sound. Of Course, this happened to me with RH7.3 and I wrote the FAQ on how to fix it. :-) I seem to recall that we were using NVAUDIO because there was an IRQ issue with i810_audio....hmm...gonna go check to see what my bios irq setting is for my sound card. :-)

[k0fcc]

IRQ looks ok but I'm getting a "spurious interrupt IRQ 7" during boot (and IRQs 5,10. & 11 are the NFORCE sound card). Grrr

[k0fcc]

Well, I did the nasty.. I wiped my entire hard disk and reinstalled from scratch.

Guess what. Same problem. :-( (fixed a few other things though)

/sbin/modprobe i810_audio locks my system hard.

Grrrrrr

[Klaus-P]

After all, did you also have checked your mobo's BIOS settings? (default values, etc,...) Though on my machine i cannot verify any
difference in the running behavior but other people have reported that a "PnP OS" when it is set to "YES" or "enabled"
in the BIOS has confused the IRQ settings for the BIOS will not control possible IRQ conflicts etc,...
So check all audio control settings in your BIOS, and also this "PnP OS" thing. And if nothing will help
remove ALL unnecessary cards, and other stuff from your board and try it again. ANd no "crazy" overclocking experiments ;-)