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How often does NVidia release Linux drivers?
I'm asking because i'm using RedHat 8.0, and
there are no RPMs for it at the moment.
I'd like to know how long i have to wait.
(do they release RH 8.0 drivers once RH 8.1 is out?)
get the srpms or the tarballs, not _that_ difficult to install.
no need to wait.
cheers
ThorsHammer
10-31-02, 02:46 PM
How can people be syig its easy to install. I have tried about 4 times and my Xserver keeps crashing. Did I get my copy from Mars or something. I have a 3 CD set of MK9.0 with kernel source installed and the tar.gx files for me do not work.
mtrr, your answer is irrelevant, learn some manners.
ThorsHammer, it depends, the sources are either
easy or hard to install depending on your distro
and type of installation. The easy and most
reliable way is the RPMs which are not very
frequently updated.
the same answer I gave was given quite often some time ago.
the correct answer should have been: RTFM which in this case
means: _dig the fscking forum_
good manners would have been looking around some time,
reading previous posts, using the thing between the ears and finally:
ask. period
cheers
ps: look at the posts, most complaints are from RH or MDK users,
after your statement I know for sure the problem is _not_ with those distros
Originally posted by sehh
mtrr, your answer is irrelevant, learn some manners.
ThorsHammer, it depends, the sources are either
easy or hard to install depending on your distro
and type of installation. The easy and most
reliable way is the RPMs which are not very
frequently updated.
Okay newbie listen up!
nice and brief: COMPILE YOUR OWN KERNEL!
u will have to learn it eventually, and heres a start.
Originally posted by sehh
mtrr, your answer is irrelevant, learn some manners.
ThorsHammer, it depends, the sources are either
easy or hard to install depending on your distro
and type of installation. The easy and most
reliable way is the RPMs which are not very
frequently updated.
LOL "The easy and most reliable way is the RPMs" what are you smoaking ?
Can i have some ?
RPM's are the wors, wors wors, way. RPMS are not needed at all, in fact Most of the faster Distros dont even use them!
And dont come back telling me oh well REdhat and Mandrake use them. They are not fast. they are for ppl that dont knwo nothing. ppl like old ladies.
the tar balls are all you need. the drivers are out for all distros, yes even including redhat 8! and wate omg they will work with redhat 8.1 and 8.2 and 8.3 , i would say it should work up to redhat 9 . (un less kernel changes )
thanks and best wishes to: doom and kappax
are you annoyed like me about those, errm
_not really intelligent_ questions? as I stated
before: those and other n00b questions tend to show
up every second day, not that I don't like to
help, but.......
I also think my answer should have pushed him in the right
direction. read: use the tarball, next step would have been to
look at the instructions from nvidia, if everything went well,
okay done. if not, come back to the forum and look and search.....
I never had problems with those drivers (only with the distro :) )
and no hardware problem at all. I'm really interested where those
probs come from, anyway, have a nice day
cheers
ThorsHammer
11-01-02, 08:59 AM
Guys like you give linux a bad name. Seriously calling people noobs and being condicending. Do you know everything about everything.
Next time you go and get someone lese to fix you're car, call yourrself a noob old lady. Think about it.
And I have in the past instaled drivers via .rpm and tar.gz and never had a problem either. This is a first.
Next time you have a problem with anything at all shot yourself becuase you dont know it all. A##hole linux snob .
Edit : And I have read the readme. Done the reading of the forum. Compiled a list of possible solutions from all the posts. Put them on a floppy to read in case X crashed. Tried all the little tips.
I didi all this long before I came and posted here.
Originally posted by ThorsHammer
Guys like you give linux a bad name. Seriously calling people noobs and being condicending. Do you know everything about everything.
Next time you go and get someone lese to fix you're car, call yourrself a noob old lady. Think about it.
And I have in the past instaled drivers via .rpm and tar.gz and never had a problem either. This is a first.
Next time you have a problem with anything at all shot yourself becuase you dont know it all. A##hole linux snob .
Edit : And I have read the readme. Done the reading of the forum. Compiled a list of possible solutions from all the posts. Put them on a floppy to read in case X crashed. Tried all the little tips.
I didi all this long before I came and posted here.
the part i left out of my post was that you are not a old lady if you use rh or mandrake, but would be a old lady if you depend on RPM.
It just get scik of ppl saying things bad about Nvidia like, when are they goin to get Redhat8 drivers done, or mndrake drivers done, or what not, when they are the stupid ones that dont even know that the drivers are done, and have been done, they just need to take a second and go read someting befor they start ranting over how bad nividia sucks because they dont have a RPM dirver.
Originally posted by kappax
LOL "The easy and most reliable way is the RPMs" what are you smoaking ?
Can i have some ?
RPM's are the wors, wors wors, way. RPMS are not needed at all, in fact Most of the faster Distros dont even use them!
And dont come back telling me oh well REdhat and Mandrake use them. They are not fast. they are for ppl that dont knwo nothing. ppl like old ladies.
the tar balls are all you need. the drivers are out for all distros, yes even including redhat 8! and wate omg they will work with redhat 8.1 and 8.2 and 8.3 , i would say it should work up to redhat 9 . (un less kernel changes )
the src is ez to install on all distros, just get the tar.gz and unzip it , recompile the knerel (and if you say that is hard, i dont know how you ever even found the start button in windows ) Or, get the RPM (eww) from the 3 rd cd in mandrake and i think the 2nd cd in rh8 and "rpm -Uvh kernel-xxxxxxxxxx" and you should be set.
heh in redhat they even made it faster, go to the package manager click on i think the last check box, (reads kernel dev) it will do some stuff ask you for a cd and then you are done!! (i think mandrake has something like that too)
Cheshiremackat
11-01-02, 02:42 PM
Alright everyone I am sick of people getting upset when someone asks a relatively *easy* question and gets flammed out... what is the benefit of this? THIS FORUM is designed for all people to come and get answers... whether they have been using Linux forever or they just bought RH 8.0 and brought it home.
Now personally, most of you are correct, the tarballs are not terribly difficult to install, but you have to remember that using language like "recompile the Kernel" then "decompress the tarball" is terribly confusing for most noobies... although the RPM's are not by any measure perfect... they are the _easiest_ way of installing the drivers... how did you install the drivers yourself the first time? For most noobies RPMs are dead easy.... download and run rpm -ivh NVIDIA********...done!
To answer the question at the start of this page, probably sooner than later, but could be a month or two... so if you want it now, try the tarballs, or use your current rev until the RPMs come out if you feel more comfortable that way....
To every other 1337 NVIDIA forum reader remember what you learned in gr 1... "if you do not have anything nice to say...don;t say anything at all..." keep that in mind when posting, flaming someone b/c they are new to the OS is helping ANYONE!
_C
ThorsHammer
11-01-02, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by kappax
the part i left out of my post was that you are not a old lady if you use rh or mandrake, but would be a old lady if you depend on RPM.
It just get scik of ppl saying things bad about Nvidia like, when are they goin to get Redhat8 drivers done, or mndrake drivers done, or what not, when they are the stupid ones that dont even know that the drivers are done, and have been done, they just need to take a second and go read someting befor they start ranting over how bad nividia sucks because they dont have a RPM dirver.
Youre missing the point all together. Everyone is a noob at something at some point. In fact you will probably be a complete noob at alot of things for the rest of youre life and also depend on other peoples knowledge to help you get tasks accomplished. Are you that stupid and thick headed to not see this. I guess so.
And unless im blind my error message doesnt appear in the read me.
Originally posted by ThorsHammer
Youre missing the point all together. Everyone is a noob at something at some point. In fact you will probably be a complete noob at alot of things for the rest of youre life and also depend on other peoples knowledge to help you get tasks accomplished. Are you that stupid and thick headed to not see this. I guess so.
And unless im blind my error message doesnt appear in the read me.
No the point is that you came here bitching how your crap dont work and it is not ez. But did not even take the time to produce a X error log and you X config ? wtf do you want ppl to do? read your minde ? i wish i could, oh myabe i should hack your computer to get your error log and your x config ?
there is difference betwee a noob, and a noob that dont what to do **** to not be a noob.
yes i am new to alot of things, one of them being the abilit to solve problems without any info on the problem. sorry i can help and nore can any body else till we see some files to see what you might be doing worng.
and no asking if you got your files from Mars is not a good way to get help, or eve the right way to start to ask to get help.
you will note that the noobs and ppl that get made "fun" of and are called noob's are the ppl that come to placese like here and bitch about stuff without asking questions. Bitching is a noob thing, so there you are called a noob. when you decide to do someting aobut it and aks a question prviding information that might help get someting fixed, then you will find that you are not called a noob and somebody will come to your rescue and help you.
Originally posted by Cheshiremackat
Alright everyone I am sick of people getting upset when someone asks a relatively *easy* question and gets flammed out... what is the benefit of this? THIS FORUM is designed for all people to come and get answers... whether they have been using Linux forever or they just bought RH 8.0 and brought it home.
Now personally, most of you are correct, the tarballs are not terribly difficult to install, but you have to remember that using language like "recompile the Kernel" then "decompress the tarball" is terribly confusing for most noobies... although the RPM's are not by any measure perfect... they are the _easiest_ way of installing the drivers... how did you install the drivers yourself the first time? For most noobies RPMs are dead easy.... download and run rpm -ivh NVIDIA********...done!
To answer the question at the start of this page, probably sooner than later, but could be a month or two... so if you want it now, try the tarballs, or use your current rev until the RPMs come out if you feel more comfortable that way....
To every other 1337 NVIDIA forum reader remember what you learned in gr 1... "if you do not have anything nice to say...don;t say anything at all..." keep that in mind when posting, flaming someone b/c they are new to the OS is helping ANYONE!
_C
ppl would not get flamed if they were aksing a question and not bitching, htis post started with a bitch and did not provide any information such as X log and XF config.
Cheshiremackat
11-02-02, 11:42 AM
I don't think asking when a RPM is going to be made available is a rant...a rant is when someone writes a comment without bothering to check it for gramatical errors.
What good would a XF86Config-4 file do when someone wants to know when an RPM is going to be available?
Go Rant somewhere else, your not helping anyone.... mindreader or not.
_C
Originally posted by Cheshiremackat
I don't think asking when a RPM is going to be made available is a rant...a rant is when someone writes a comment without bothering to check it for gramatical errors.
What good would a XF86Config-4 file do when someone wants to know when an RPM is going to be available?
Go Rant somewhere else, your not helping anyone.... mindreader or not.
_C
the xconfig and x log was in general, and yes there should be a problem when somebody ask for a RPM, because the persion asking looks to me like they think that they are not going to beable to run a nvidia card with nvidia drivers till they get there RPM. In fact Nnidia does not even have to make RPMS, all they need is the tar.gz file and that is it.
and if the persion would have read the
"Redhat 8.0 NVIDIA works - INSTRUCTIONS"
post he would not even had to ask for the RPM.
kappax: 'cme on, let this thread die, I was a little upset
the time I wrote my comment, but on the other hand
I'm also curious why there so many people getting angry
about a rather harmles thing.....
cheers
Originally posted by mtrr
kappax: 'cme on, let this thread die, I was a little upset
the time I wrote my comment, but on the other hand
I'm also curious why there so many people getting angry
about a rather harmles thing.....
cheers
people dont get angry, ppl just dont like being wrong :), and if sehh whould have not told you that your is irrelevant, I beet i would have never even posted here.
+ seems ppl dont like beeing called a noob, and looks to me like people are afrade to compile there own kernel. compiling a kernel is really not all that hard. in fact the hardest part of compiling the kernel is knowing what HW you have. and when you install the kernel src via RPM from a distro it comes with the default config, most likely of the same kernel you are running.
anyway PPL that are wating for RPM, waite no more, get the tar.gz and be on your way.
Oh, and for people that want to learn alittle more about linux, try installing gentoo, there is no gui install, it is all command line from a bash shell, but there is a good step by step on how to get it installed. even if your install flops i am sure most of the ppl here (PPL that use RPMS) will learn alot about linux and would be good for you :)
+ gentoo is faster :)
netviper13
11-04-02, 01:31 PM
I think all the flaming and "noobie" rehtoric is crap. Chewing someone out accomplishes absolutely nothing, period.
As a first-time Linux user myself, I have this advice to offer: As much of a pain as it may be, it's best to just go about it the long way, even if that means several reinstalls.
I know how easy RPMs are, I love them too, but unfortunately I don't think nVidia will release the RH8 ones for a while. I would suggest reading the thread about Redhat 8 Drivers working, it immensly helped me when I went to install the nVidia drivers.
One more thing, I would definitely suggest learning 'Vi' commands before doing the installation; it tends to be kind of rough learning them as you go.
ThorsHammer
11-04-02, 03:32 PM
AT least us people completely new to linux are taking the time to even try and learn it. In term giving it and the developers the support they deserve.
Most people who I talk to that try linux for the first itme, dont ven get past the install. And if they do, the first sign of them having to use a command line means an immediate reboot into Windows.
This thread is temporarily closed for repairs.
People smart enough to use Linux should at least have some decent mannerisms. This thread will be cleaned and reopenned.
If you're going to be a jerk, go somewhere else. We give people legitimate help here.
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