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Ninja Prime
08-20-04, 07:14 PM
Sue their mouths shut Kerry, thats the american way! (http://www.pardonmyenglish.com/index.php?cat=2)

Where is your much-vaunted liberal freedom of speech now? Kerry is essentially burning books before the even get to the bookstore, but it's ok because he's a lib democrap right?

No one tried to duct-tape his mouth shut when he became a rabid anti-war0n a few seconds after he got back from 'Nam, so why is he trying to take away his peers right to write and sell a book about their side of the story?

Oh and last I heard the girl in the abu grahb(?) pics was getting something like 30 years for beating prisoners and touching their wangs, Kerry by his own admission shot at civilians, torched their houses, killed their cattle (essentially starving them to death) and fired upon people in free-fire zones... Sounds a lot worse to me... how many years did he get? How many should he get?

This is your criminal of a democrap canidate.

Riptide
08-20-04, 07:37 PM
Wait I thought Kerry only witnessed these things and did not partake? Or is he a real war criminal? Anyone care to educate the uninformed? :D

Ninja Prime
08-20-04, 09:05 PM
Wait I thought Kerry only witnessed these things and did not partake? Or is he a real war criminal? Anyone care to educate the uninformed? :D

There is an audio clip of him saying that he himself did exactly what I described above. Out of his own mouth. He says "I didnt know it was against the rules of conflict at the time." :rolleyes:

Perhaps the troops in abu grahb didnt know it was bad at the time... same standard.

Mr. Hunt
08-20-04, 09:14 PM
Where can I find this audio clip?

Ruined
08-20-04, 09:25 PM
lol suing the swift boat vets but michael moore and moveon.org bs is okay

hypocritical liberals at their best :)

Ruined
08-20-04, 09:29 PM
Where can I find this audio clip?

Don't have audio but here is a link: (funny one too)
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=KerryONeill

MR. CAVETT: Well, let's talk about that. Did you see war crimes committed and –

MR. KERRY: Well, I have often talked about this subject. I personally didn't see personal atrocities in the sense that I saw somebody cut a head off or something like that. However, I did take part in free fire zones and I did take part in harassment interdiction fire. I did take part in search-and-destroy missions in which the houses of noncombatants were burned to the ground. And all of these, I find out later on, these acts are contrary to the Hague and Geneva Conventions and to the laws of warfare. So in that sense, anybody who took part in those, if you carry out the applications of the Nuremberg principles, is in fact guilty.

CurtMan
08-20-04, 10:11 PM
I think the problem is they are very misleading in the ad and are basically lying in the ad. Which is not protected in the freedom of speech (libel, slander, etc)

I think he's upset that they are taking it as if he said those things, when he was referring to a conference of vets in Chicago. I wish both sides would be more truthful. I'm tired of the BS from both sides in campaign adds. I don't even listen to them anymore.

Ninja Prime
08-20-04, 10:22 PM
I think the problem is they are very misleading in the ad and are basically lying in the ad.

Lets see, who do you believe, Kerry and his one witness that supports him, or over 200 of Kerrys peers who served with him? Tough one there, on one hand, you have a indecisive flip-flopper, who came home early from the war and instantly joined/supported/funded a anti-war movement that undermined the morale of the troops still there, while giving aid and comfort to the enemy. In essense, he came home and stabbed all his "buddies" in the back.

On the other hand you have 200 veterans who have REAL purple hearts, REAL medals, who stayed the full year they were supposed to, or more, and that have not been shouting their accomplishments from every podium in the USA, and using said accomplishments as the mainstay of their platform for why they should be elected.

HMMMMM, WHO TO TRUST?!?!?!?

vampireuk
08-21-04, 09:26 AM
I think the problem is they are very misleading in the ad and are basically lying in the ad. Which is not protected in the freedom of speech (libel, slander, etc)

I think he's upset that they are taking it as if he said those things, when he was referring to a conference of vets in Chicago. I wish both sides would be more truthful. I'm tired of the BS from both sides in campaign adds. I don't even listen to them anymore.

Slander is to lie, I saw no lies in the ad, hell Kerry has admitted he commited war crimes.