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Domy
08-22-04, 10:31 AM
which one is the best thing to upgrade?i heard about windows xp 64 bit but i don't know that much so i need some suggestions here.thx

MUYA
08-22-04, 10:33 AM
I would suggest a A64...purely based on feedbacks here and reviews around the web.....a socket 939 Athlon64 would be a good option for u as Socket 939 motherboards are going to be the default socket for k8's in the future...workstations wil be 940. and socket 754 is getting phased out.

P4's are good as well but seems AMD's are cheaper, however in media intensive tasks like video encoding etc...seems Intel's are better.

Slap this post around if I am wrong guys.

jAkUp
08-22-04, 12:52 PM
A64 by far!

Riptide
08-22-04, 01:58 PM
The 3500+ socket939 is the best bang for the bug right now I think. You might want to consider one of those along with a good board like the Asus AV8 Rev 2.0 (if you go VIA). I'm trying out the MSI nforce3 soon but I don't have an opinion yet.

AthlonXP1800
08-22-04, 02:47 PM
Athlon 64 Socket 939 all the way!!! :nanahump:

Avoid Prescott like plaque, Prescott have a nasty bug in the core, after install XP SP2 and restart first time and then the XP boot screen will hang to halt, this didnt occur in P4 Northwood, 32bit and 64bit P4 Xeon.

The latest beta build 1218 of Windows XP Professional x64 Edition showed much more stable and faster than 32bit Windows XP Professional version. Benchmarks showed 64bit performances are more than and some equal to 32bit performances, none of it are less performance compared to 32bit version, that huge improvement over the last build. :)

I am hope to get Athlon 64 4000+ this year if the price is right. :D

jAkUp
08-22-04, 02:58 PM
I think I'm gonna wait for an athlon 64 4000+ as well :)

|JuiceZ|
08-22-04, 03:06 PM
The A64 of course! ;)

holmes
08-22-04, 11:41 PM
Aside from me being an uber-AMD fan, I would take the A64 hands down..
(pimp)

mustrum
08-23-04, 06:14 AM
It depends: If you live in a cold country get the prescott!
:lol2:

Domy
08-23-04, 11:34 AM
thx guys, btw i'm on a tight budget. do u think i should go with dual channel memory or not? and if i don't what's the best mobo for prescott?i lived in Indonesia where the products get here in a very lame time.and for now, the socket 939 is just on a high rocketing price. and socket 745 is the only choice i got for a64 pair with the a64 2800+.sorry for didn't explain this earlier. thx a lot guys.....

Gator
08-24-04, 11:41 AM
A64 by far!

agreed

Gator
08-24-04, 11:42 AM
thx guys, btw i'm on a tight budget. do u think i should go with dual channel memory or not? and if i don't what's the best mobo for prescott?i lived in Indonesia where the products get here in a very lame time.and for now, the socket 939 is just on a high rocketing price. and socket 745 is the only choice i got for a64 pair with the a64 2800+.sorry for didn't explain this earlier. thx a lot guys.....

dual channel is not a big deal for Athlon64, so use whatever DDR memory you like and pair it with an Nforce3 250 motherboard and socket754 Athlon64

Ninjaman09
08-24-04, 03:57 PM
My Prescott runs 36 celcius idle, 45 celcius load. That's with my CPU fan at about 3200 RPM (barely audible). Everything runs fast as hell on it too. I regretted my buy at first but there really isn't a largely noticable difference between the P4s and the A64s until you get into really high resolutions in really high end games.

FastM
08-25-04, 07:25 PM
My Prescott runs 36 celcius idle, 45 celcius load. That's with my CPU fan at about 3200 RPM (barely audible). Everything runs fast as hell on it too. I regretted my buy at first but there really isn't a largely noticable difference between the P4s and the A64s until you get into really high resolutions in really high end games.

Or until you stop looking at benchmarks, sit down and play the same game on both machines and realize even when the A64 produces lower FPS it still feels smoother than any P4.

Blacklash
08-25-04, 08:33 PM
My Prescott runs 36 celcius idle, 45 celcius load. That's with my CPU fan at about 3200 RPM (barely audible). Everything runs fast as hell on it too. I regretted my buy at first but there really isn't a largely noticable difference between the P4s and the A64s until you get into really high resolutions in really high end games.

I haunt more than a few overclocking forums and I can say folks that have got thier 2.8E-3.2E to 3.7-4.2 are very happy/impressed with them. The heat must be tamed, that's a given.

I find the opposite true vs AMD. In today's I see the largest edge at 800x600 low detail and it reduces as you scale up to 1600x1200 high detail. AMD does have the edge in gaming and against a Pentium 4 that supposed to be equal it will win by 10-2% margin. Where it gets interesting is when you buy a 2.4-3.0 Pentium and get a good OC out of it.

Without overclocking and good cooling for a Prescott I would recommend the AMD hands down. I would NOT give 600-1000 dollars to AMD or Intel for a chip. I'd get the 64 3000(OC it) 3200(OC it) or a 3500 and run it stock. <Maybe with a slight OC. Honestly, you don't need more than around 3.2 power with a mid high graphics card to spank most all games well.

KickAssCop
08-26-04, 01:36 AM
A64 S939

Eltigre88
09-04-04, 01:12 PM
AMD is junk!! They should give it up and call it a day!! :lame:

MUYA
09-04-04, 01:19 PM
great contribution :baaa:: (omg)

holmes
09-04-04, 03:03 PM
hehe.. junk? that's a good one..
(wack)

Daneel Olivaw
09-04-04, 03:18 PM
I have little to no respect for text-centered made-up fake multicoloured sigs. And know-it-all end-of-the-world arguments too. Eltigre88's post falls in those categories I'm afraid.

For the sake of this thread, Prescott isn't as bad as it could have been, its pretty much on par with the nw. I would recommend the a64 in a bang-for-buck argument, but the nw are much more fun to overclock. A 2.6-2.8 nw would be a fine buy.

But the a64 gets my vote.

jAkUp
09-04-04, 03:58 PM
AMD is junk!! They should give it up and call it a day!! :lame:

sounds like a fanboy to me.. I would easily trade my 3.7ghz p4 for a 3200 amd 64

sabrewulf165
09-04-04, 04:09 PM
I've been very happy with my s754 A64 3400+ (1 MB L2 cache, but most now are 200 MHz faster with 512k L2) I certainly don't think P4's are bad processors, but for the same or less money, A64s are better, and also have options like Cool n' Quiet, No eXecute, and future 64-bit capability (for what that's worth right now)

I've had my 3400+ since January of this year, and I plan on using it well into next year before it's even remotely likely that I'll need anything faster :)

PoorGuy
09-06-04, 12:48 AM
sounds like a fanboy to me.. I would easily trade my 3.7ghz p4 for a 3200 amd 64

Wow for real?

:cool2:

Riptide
09-06-04, 01:18 AM
I wouldn't trade a 3.7 p4 for less than a 3500+

Viral
09-06-04, 02:23 AM
It depends on how much you can stably overclock the A64.. after an overclocker P4 3.7GHz may perform better than an official P4 @ 3.7GHz, but it's still not the same thing.

However I would probably have to say at least a 3500+ unless you knew you were getting a 3200+ that overclocked very well (some can do 2.6GHz on air).