horrible slowdowns

[neighborlee]

hi..

I am having nasty slowdowns during:

1. initial login to most servers for MP..this may be norm dunno...also sound usually is choppy at best during this login initially..also maybe norm dunno..

2. i have: PIV2.26 geforce4TI4200 256 RD800 ram 40GB 7200 RPM spin drive and yes current nvidia driver setup correclty with working gxlgears fps of 3900.

most notable issue is..horrible HD activity during most game loads and obvious system slowdown after having quit game completely....now its not as bad if I turn settings down to normal.....but with my systems stats should that be necessary ?..is that game that resource of a HOG? .if so its theonly game to date to cause this albeit i'm not runninganything else native commercial in linux other than quakeIII...which is old by comparison but which runs like a uttter champ..

the most noteable issue for me is the nasty HD activity I get and slow slow screen draws 'after' quitting game and during display of desktop..really bad...

as I say.my windows friend has same ram but much lower process and about same able videocard..so only diff seems to be i'm using linux which mabye doen't do virtual ram as well as windows ? or its a bug in linux client so far with 'some' systems..

thx anyone
lee
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[Klaus-P]

Check your HD settings via "hdparm" (PIO modes, DMA mode, etc...) enter "man hdparm" and read a bit
about changing, checking and/or tuning some parameters regarding your harddrive(s). And DO NOT IGNORE the WARNINGS!!!

[bwkaz]

Which program is this that you're having slowdowns with?

Linux is not worse at VM handling than Windows is, it's just different. Among other things, the design philosophy is "the RAM's available, so let's use it for something rather than just letting it sit idle" -- so the OS caches filesystem data in your RAM if it can. If a user program requests memory, and not enough physical RAM is available, this filesystem cache is the first thing to be reclaimed. So it could be a combination of the game freeing a bunch of memory when it exits (because that's what happens), and the system then accessing other files. Those files get read into RAM cache, and you go from there. Maybe normal behavior is that the stuff you're looking at is cached, but after the game exits it isn't anymore?

What are you doing that's "obviously slowing down"?

[neighborlee]

hi..

everything is slowed down...its as if the system 's ram and cache..everything is just gone and it's having a hard time recovering..but it makes no sense as my friend has a PIII600/win98/256ram/ and same video card as I and doesn' t see this at all..of course its worse when I try to max out setttings..but I have the specs needed and then some so why its behaving this way is a mystery..

as I say...after quitting..my system can't even draw the desktop right..its all white and 'slllllloowwwwly' draws down from the top...but only if i've maxed out the settings in game..but as I say..with my powerful lsystem ( only minus is 256 ram instead of 512..but my system is brand new/start of art and I can't imagine it not being able to handle it?-if not I guess there should have been warnings on package..but it says 256 is reccomended..and thats what I have ) i'm utterly amazed i'm getting this behavior...

but there is one thing..the game is 'optimized' for D3D which is windows ...so is that partly whyi'm getting this??..the settings that my nvidia driver is using isn't optimized enough to handle the game ?

lee
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[r0gu3]

ok... what game are you running...

If you are talking about ut2003 then its because the opengl renderer sux.. Flat out... the linux port is a joke, i mean i guess its nice that they ported it, but its like they just HACKED it until it worked... it does almost NO culling, and it just overloads the video cards, which is why the pci cards can't run it at all...

So if your talking about ut2003 than complain to epic (or whoever ported it) to fix their opengl renderer (i imagine if they release a mac port, they will have to do it anyways...) but if your problem is with quake3, then please list your window manager...

One of the common problems people have is they turn on all the hardware acceleration inside of their window managers (kde especially) and then they seem surprised to see a performance hit in their games...

- r0gu3

[neighborlee]

Originally posted by r0gu3
ok... what game are you running...

If you are talking about ut2003 then its because the opengl renderer sux.. Flat out... the linux port is a joke, i mean i guess its nice that they ported it, but its like they just HACKED it until it worked... it does almost NO culling, and it just overloads the video cards, which is why the pci cards can't run it at all...

So if your talking about ut2003 than complain to epic (or whoever ported it) to fix their opengl renderer (i imagine if they release a mac port, they will have to do it anyways...) but if your problem is with quake3, then please list your window manager...

One of the common problems people have is they turn on all the hardware acceleration inside of their window managers (kde especially) and then they seem surprised to see a performance hit in their games...

- r0gu3
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oh man if this is actually true..im very sadened...I bought this in good faith for linux community knowing epics track record..why on earth did they do this?..yes I will email epic without question..

yes its UT2003..
I thought something was wrong..ie: my system specs are:
PIV2.26Ghz with geforce4TI4200 ( yes not state of art from nvidia but darn close) with RH8 linux and 256 ram ( which I thought would be plenty for a while -<G>- )..

very sad indeed if this is the case..the game 'will' run okay 'if' i set most everything to 'normal' settings..but I still get alot of HD chattter..also when I quit game I noticed the ram was nearly all gone..but I know thats how linux handles things....confusing thing though is game reccomends 256 ram which is what I have..so maybe there is some setting I can alter for better performance..i use metacity and I thought it was a light WM ?..i'll maybe try flux..

I run gnome btw....also btw: quakeIII runs killer in my new system...major killer :))))))))..its almost 'too' fast ! :)

thx mucho for reply :))

cu
lee
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