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gate1975mlm
09-04-04, 09:09 PM
Guys I really need your help! I want to build a gaming PC but I also don't want to spend an arm and a leg! I was thinking about getting an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Socket 939 and Motherboard and Dual channel RAM. But its looking like this set up is just going to cost more then I really want to spend. What do you think I could get that would be able to run games like DOOM 3 with High Settings but not break the bank! I really do want an AMD Athlon 64 Chip!
And I want 1GB of RAM 400FSB. And I would like a motherboard that does not have alot of Bugs or problems. I would like to add that I already own a Geforce 6800 GT, 2 120 ATA 100 7200RPM Hard Drives,Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS among other things. So I guess what I am trying to say is For the Motherboard,Processor and RAM what would you recommend? Again with out breaking the bank.

Thanks for your help!

jAkUp
09-04-04, 09:21 PM
whats your budget?

gate1975mlm
09-04-04, 09:24 PM
whats your budget?

No more then $700 is what I would like.

UDawg
09-04-04, 11:27 PM
$93.00 WD 120GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=22-144-151&depa=0)
133.00 A8V Deluxe (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-510&depa=0)
369.00 Athlon 64 3500+ (2.2GHz/Socket 939) (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80717-R)
148.00 Mushkin 184 Pin 512MB x2 DDR PC-3200 - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-219&depa=0)
437.00 Gainward nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-128-195&depa=0) OR 419.00 EVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT With Free Doom 3Bundle (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-130-208&depa=0)
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= $1180

These are all good prices and good products. The problem is your $700 budget is unrealist for the hardware pieces you want.

ragejg
09-04-04, 11:44 PM
Umm... heh, for those 2 HD's he should either get some SATA-PATA adapters and use the MOBO's RAID0, or get a Promise card... and say goodbye to slow load times. :)

Rytr
09-05-04, 12:00 AM
If you just need a cpu, mobo, and ram UDawg's price quotes would get you under the wire if you went with 512MB of ram and slightly over with 1 gig.

UDawg
09-05-04, 12:06 AM
What I have there is the the bottom of the barrel for quality protucts. You can get cheaper products but why would you? I would only get one HDD Raid doesn't do anything for gaming no matter what people tell you. Raid is not for gaming but for MM or data recovery.

BTW the A8V has on-board sound and it is pretty good. I isn't the Audigy2 zs which runs around $100 but it will do fine if you can't afford to spend much money. I chose to put up all those parts for a good but cheap system for anyone who is looking.

Sorry, I forgot to put a x2 by the RAM. That is two 512s at $74

He would spend $650

ragejg
09-05-04, 01:01 AM
I don't run RAID0, but teh rigs I've seen running it seem to have hyper quick load times in games... somewhat a luxury option I guess...

gate1975mlm
09-05-04, 07:50 AM
$93.00 WD 120GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=22-144-151&depa=0)
133.00 A8V Deluxe (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-510&depa=0)
369.00 Athlon 64 3500+ (2.2GHz/Socket 939) (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80717-R)
148.00 Mushkin 184 Pin 512MB x2 DDR PC-3200 - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-219&depa=0)
437.00 Gainward nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-128-195&depa=0) OR 419.00 EVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT With Free Doom 3Bundle (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-130-208&depa=0)
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= $1180

These are all good prices and good products. The problem is your $700 budget is unrealist for the hardware pieces you want.

Newegg has Corsair Value Select VS1GBKIT400 Dual Pack) 184 Pin 1G(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - OEM $152.00 little more money but is this better then Mushkin 184 Pin 512MB x2 DDR PC-3200 - Retail?

gate1975mlm
09-05-04, 07:55 AM
$93.00 WD 120GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=22-144-151&depa=0)
133.00 A8V Deluxe (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-510&depa=0)
369.00 Athlon 64 3500+ (2.2GHz/Socket 939) (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80717-R)
148.00 Mushkin 184 Pin 512MB x2 DDR PC-3200 - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-219&depa=0)
437.00 Gainward nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-128-195&depa=0) OR 419.00 EVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT With Free Doom 3Bundle (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-130-208&depa=0)
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= $1180

These are all good prices and good products. The problem is your $700 budget is unrealist for the hardware pieces you want.

Also they have MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum $149 at newegg. How does this board compare to A8V Deluxe? Like I think I read something about where SATA drives are harder to set up on the VIA board compared to the Nforce3 board. Is that true?

gate1975mlm
09-05-04, 08:23 AM
I was thinking of getting this set up

System 1
1.Corsair Value Select VS1GBKIT400 Dual Pack) 184 Pin 1G(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - OEM $152.00
2.ASUSK 8V SE Deluxe 754 Chip Set $113.00
3.AMD Athlon 64 3400+ OEM $279.00
ToTal $544

But I think I would be better off with the 939 Chip Set and Dual Channel RAM. For only a little more money. Would you agree?

And I forgot to say that I do not plan on over clocking at all!

UDawg
09-06-04, 05:32 AM
Newegg has Corsair Value Select VS1GBKIT400 Dual Pack) 184 Pin 1G(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - OEM $152.00 little more money but is this better then Mushkin 184 Pin 512MB x2 DDR PC-3200 - Retail?


I am willing to bet you wont be able to tell a difference. Some will say it is better but in real application it is marginal.

I would save u more money and get the 939. You will kick your self if you don't.

Riptide
09-06-04, 10:34 AM
Also they have MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum $149 at newegg. How does this board compare to A8V Deluxe? Like I think I read something about where SATA drives are harder to set up on the VIA board compared to the Nforce3 board. Is that true?
Get the Asus, IMO. And actually, if you are overclocking the SATA ports are fussier on the MSI. You need to use ports 3 and 4 on the MSI or you can have problems reaching a higher FSB setting. The layout on the MSI is horrible compared to the A8V, and the A8V doesn't have the temp reporting problems that are plaguing everyone else's 939 boards. The gigabyte is the only exception to that and it has just recently been fixed w/BIOS update.

gate1975mlm
09-06-04, 11:06 AM
Ok if I go with the A8V Deluxe then should I make sure I get the revision 2.0 one?

Riptide
09-06-04, 11:11 AM
I would get the 2.0 even though I've heard the 1.02 was a better overclocker.

gate1975mlm
09-06-04, 11:43 AM
I would get the 2.0 even though I've heard the 1.02 was a better overclocker.

I don't plan on over clocking!