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joltcola
09-09-04, 08:09 PM
Alright, I kept a friend of mine from making a mistake. She wanted to goto a local computer store to purchase a computer. Well, I know this store and its a big rip off. Big prices for cheep products. But, she turned around and asked me what my suggestion would be. Being that she is a casual computer user ( websurfing, txt msg'ing, email ) I suggested maybe a Dell that had a package deal on sale. Then she asked me what I would do... well.. I'd build my own. So.. guess what.. she asked me to build her one. Or at least get a ballpark price on what it would cost if I did it the newegg way.

Well.. im busy as hell and I'm way out of the loop on what is good and respectable. I'm not into computers as I once was ( girlfriend and work ) and I want to get her the best for the cheepest and I was thinking ya'all could help me out please.

The only thing she had stated that she wanted was a 17in flat monitor or bigger.

But basicly a fresh setup with winxp under a 1,000. I'm was thinking around the 700 to 800 range.. but whatever you guys can throw together.

Thanks for your help.. just trying to keep her from getting ripped off or doing any of the big bundle names..

-- jolt

saturnotaku
09-09-04, 09:08 PM
I assume you're talking about a full package here (CPU, motherboard, memory, vid card, etc). Here's a pretty basic package you can put together (prices taken from Newegg.com):

CPU: Athlon XP 2000+ retail - $64
Motherboard: ECS KT600-A (VIA KT600 chipset) - $42
RAM: 2x APacer 256 mb DDR - $80 (for 512 mb total)
Video: GeForce FX 5200 - $55
CD: Lite-On 52x CD-RW - $30
Case: Antec mid-tower w/350W PSU - $70

That's about as basic as you can get for $341 + shipping.

Sazar
09-09-04, 10:30 PM
well first question...

does she have software?

coz w/o software (assuming she's gonna be using windows) the bill will add up...

here's my list for her... all newegg (coz I like em :D )

cpu == sempron 3100+ (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-104-214&depa=1) $124.00

mobo == chaintec sckt 754 (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-152-039&depa=1) $62.00 + 5 == $67.00

hdd == samsung 80gb (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=22-152-010&DEPA=1) $62.00 + 0.99 == $62.99

memory == 512MB geil value (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-144-305&depa=1) $76.00

gfx == ati 9200SE (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=14-140-026&DEPA=1) $41.00

case == Aspire with 350W psu (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=11-144-071&DEPA=1) $35.50 + 15.99 == $51.49

keyboard/mouse == Lite-On wireless (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=23-107-116&depa=0) $23.00+4.50 == $27.50

monitor == Rosewill 17" flatpanel (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=24-021-011&depa=0) $295.00

or Samsung 17" CRT tru-flat (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=24-001-165&DEPA=0) $139.00

keep in mind all components are decent in capability and you can easily cut corners everywhere to give her a better all round setup :cool:

total cost == $744.98 with the LCD flatpanel or $ 588.98 with the CRT...

factor in cost of software beyond this...

all costs include shipping...

-edit-

btw I started writing this before I went to dinner... when i came back I realised I hadn't submitted :retard:

ynnek
09-10-04, 01:15 AM
Honestly, Dell drives decent bargains when you throw in the cost of Win XP and the monitor.. especially if you get one of their packaged deals and throw in more mem yourself... The trick is to recogonize or customize the "right deal"


Plus she'll have dell warantee and support to nag if something goes wrong... unless your willing to be her free tech support.

saturnotaku
09-10-04, 05:45 AM
Honestly, Dell drives decent bargains when you throw in the cost of Win XP and the monitor.. especially if you get one of their packaged deals and throw in more mem yourself... The trick is to recogonize or customize the "right deal"


Plus she'll have dell warantee and support to nag if something goes wrong... unless your willing to be her free tech support.

Excellent points. For someone who's not going to be doing anything terribly rigorous, it's probably going to be less of a headache for the both of you if she simply purchases OEM.

Gator
09-10-04, 06:38 AM
Athlon64 2800 Retail - $144.00
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-452&depa=0

Chaintech VNF3-250 motherboard - $79.99
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-152-043&depa=0

Mushkin 512mb DDR PC3200 cas2.5 - $74.99
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-219&depa=0

Seagate 80gig 7200rpm 8mb cache SATA - $71.00
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-148-019&depa=0

Antec Black Server case w/ 400w PSU - $105
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-129-120&depa=0

Microsoft Black Keyboard & Mouse - $19.49
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=23-157-010&depa=0

Sony Black 52x CDRW - $28.99
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=27-106-823&depa=0

NEC Black Floppy - $9.99
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=21-152-005&depa=0

XFX FX5700LE 128DDR Video - $84.99
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-150-056&depa=0

Microsoft WinXP Home OEM - $90.00
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=37-102-141&DEPA=6

Rosewill Black 17" LCD 16ms w/ speakers - $298.00
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=24-021-008&depa=0

Total = $996.45 (includes shipping)

This is a more realalistic system in my opinion. It will allow her to play any games she may be interested in at reasonable frame rates, it will last longer than the other systems listed, it has more adequate specs and room for upgrades, it is much faster than the other systems listed, it is below the $1000 mark you mentioned and includes a 17" LCD as you requested, it includes WinXP, it is completely black in color, it has a more powerful and better brand PSU than the others mentioned

lytalbayre
09-10-04, 12:52 PM
I'm suprised no one has posted the obvious. If you build this thing for her, no matter your good intentions, it will be your fault when she breaks it! Trust me, I've made the mistake before and it's really annoying when someone thinks that your obligated to be their free customer support.

I'd recommend you go through dell or even a smaller online retailer that sells complete systems. Let them deal with her issues when they arrive.

And, like someone said above, you can always add memory or a new monitor to the system you buy to spruce it up!

Good luck!

Gator
09-10-04, 02:09 PM
I'm suprised no one has posted the obvious. If you build this thing for her, no matter your good intentions, it will be your fault when she breaks it! Trust me, I've made the mistake before and it's really annoying when someone thinks that your obligated to be their free customer support.

I'd recommend you go through dell or even a smaller online retailer that sells complete systems. Let them deal with her issues when they arrive.

And, like someone said above, you can always add memory or a new monitor to the system you buy to spruce it up!

Good luck!

The man makes a valid point. Make her buy a Dell or HP and let them deal with her problems :lol2:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_series.do?series_name=a750e_series&catLevel=2&category=desktops/hp_pavilion&storeName=computer_store

joltcola
09-10-04, 11:14 PM
Thank you guys very much for your posts and the lists. Defiantly good points on going with Dell. I told her that if I couldn't come up with a much better price that she should go with them. I too noticed that Dell definatly bundles monitors for cheep.

I think one of her biggest thing is the monitor ( not sure why.. ). As for quality, what do you guys think of Rosewill. I've never heard of this manufacturer(sp) till now.

I'll prolly write up the lists that you guys put together and put together some variants to show her defferent options setups. I guess I'll also head over to Dell and see what I can put together there.

Thanks again ya'all!

-- jolt