x800XT in Stock at NewEgg

[jbirney]

Anyone still looking to get them, here is your chance, OEM from Sapphire @ $459 which is not a bad deal...but still a bit over by head price wise:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-397&depa=0

Keep in mind this is the APG version thats clocked a bit lower. See the Beyond3d review to get an idea of its perfromance.

[Gator]

Although I could never afford such a card, that's a pretty good price for it! Check out http://www.pricewatch.com/h/prc.aspx?i=37&a=6108&f=1 they list the card for no less than $501, so $459 is a good deal :)

[|JuiceZ|]

These 'll be gone in 10mins :D

[Riptide]

Not a bad price for 500/500. Wonder how well it will overclock... :)

[mustrum]

These 'll be gone in 10mins :D
They're available in europe for quite a while now and stilla vailable. It seems ATI can deliver lots of XTs. They just have trouble with the XT PE it seems.

[Riptide]

I wonder how this thing performs compared to a GT.

[saturnotaku]

If I had to guess it would probably outperform it due to its higher clock speed. The GT doesn't have the extra pipeline advantage in this case.

[Riptide]

If I had to guess it would probably outperform it due to its higher clock speed. The GT doesn't have the extra pipeline advantage in this case.
Well if that's the case then this is an attractive price is it not? :)

[saturnotaku]

Not when I've seen a few 6800 GT cards come in at $375 - an 18% price difference. I don't see the performance gap being that high. Even if you go at the GT's MSRP of $399, that's still a 13% price differential.

While the XT's price is attractive, I still don't see it as being a better value than the GT.

[Sazar]

These 'll be gone in 10mins :D

they have had em and the lower-priced GT's in stock for the last several days :D

somewhere... someone's supply is finally holding for ati's cards lol...

[sabrewulf165]

they have had em and the lower-priced GT's in stock for the last several days :D

somewhere... someone's supply is finally holding for ati's cards lol...
yeah, "limit 5 per customer" isn't usually something you see on an item that they only have a few of

[red_star]

This is a good deal, because this thing has 16 Pipes, and 1.6 Samsung memory and it should overclock easily...

[saturnotaku]

1.6 Samsung memory and it should overclock easily...

Do we know for sure if it has this memory? If it is, why wouldn't ATI try to put it on the XT PE first?

[|JuiceZ|]

they have had em and the lower-priced GT's in stock for the last several days :D

somewhere... someone's supply is finally holding for ati's cards lol...

Was thinking of the X800XT PE, my bad. :p

[Clay]

I wonder how this thing performs compared to a GT.
Sat is right. You'd likely see appreciable gains only at 1600x1200 with at least 2xAA applied. Even then the differences would vary depending on the game of course. I had an X800XT PE up against the BFG 6800 Ultra in one of my reviews so that's where I'm getting this...assuming the differences would be similar. UT2K4 was the only game that seemed to really have a substantial performance gain with the X800XT PE.

[sabrewulf165]

Do we know for sure if it has this memory? If it is, why wouldn't ATI try to put it on the XT PE first?
These cards are just XT-PE's that didn't quite make the cut and got speed binned, so yes, they definitely have 1.6ns Samsung chips, at least for now. Beyond3D's review and Xbitlabs news blurb confirm this. The cards also have VIVO capabilities

[saturnotaku]

So ATI must really be having yield problems with the PE because as of a couple hours ago, those cards were still in stock.

[netviper13]

Ok, so would this card be a better bet or a 6800GT? My LCD only supports up to 1280x1024, so that would be my max gaming resolution.

I know either card will be CPU-limited with my setup, but I'm waiting for prices on the socket 939 A64s to fall just a bit before picking up a new CPU.

[mustrum]

So ATI must really be having yield problems with the PE because as of a couple hours ago, those cards were still in stock.
Yes and no. It'S not allways the core. I had a VIVO that did 520 core but the 1.6ns memory couldn't go past 500mhz. Quality with 1.6ns chips varies a lot.
They have trouble to get the compination of 520 core and 560 memory stable it seems.
Lots of boards can do either 520 core or 560 memory though.
They have trouble with the XT PE though i agree there.

[mustrum]

Ok, so would this card be a better bet or a 6800GT? My LCD only supports up to 1280x1024, so that would be my max gaming resolution.

I know either card will be CPU-limited with my setup, but I'm waiting for prices on the socket 939 A64s to fall just a bit before picking up a new CPU.
There's benchmarks out with the new XT. Doom 3 is the only game where the GT can beat it. Yes it's faster but it's also a bit more expensive.

Edit: No i don't think it'S worth an upgrade.
Edit2: BAh could've edited that inmy other reply. (ack)

[saturnotaku]

I read Beyond3D's comparisons and in non AA/AF situations, the GT is faster overall in D3D. But in situations where fillrate is king, the XT obviously comes out on top. Unfortunately, you can't do a direct comparison of their results because they used 8x AF on the Radeon and 16x AF on the 6800 but the performance gap in those situations was up to 25%. I'm not sure what it would be at 8x.

[mustrum]

You might take a look there.
http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardware/videocards/article.php/3406871
I don'T know much about sharkyextreme but where's the point in tweaking every benchmark you do?
The XT beats the ULTRA in quite a lot of those benchmarks.
With and without AF.
Seriously: Do you play any games without AF?

[saturnotaku]

I can't really trust that review because they were somehow magically able to get 4x AA working in Halo. :eek2:

But in the other benches, the differential is at most 20% and in most cases it's between 10-15%. The price difference between the $385 eVGA GT and $459 XT (which is an anomaly because all the other XT cards listed are more than $500) is slightly more than 16%. So it's a wash as far as I'm concerned.

[mustrum]

I can't really trust that review because they were somehow magically able to get 4x AA working in Halo. :eek2:

But in the other benches, the differential is at most 20% and in most cases it's between 10-15%. The price difference between the $385 eVGA GT and $459 XT (which is an anomaly because all the other XT cards listed are more than $500) is slightly more than 16%. So it's a wash as far as I'm concerned.
I know. The XT is more expensive as the GT but slightly faster.
For ATI fans it'S great since it's the 16 pipe card everyone wanted. If i want a 12 pipe card i'd go for the 6800NU and overclock the sh** out of it. :D
I'd never have bought the x800 PRO. Even though it's somewhat close to a GT, it's still slower and even more expensive (over here). I also think that the 16 pipelines will be even more important in games that have yet to be released.

[jbirney]

I also think that the 16 pipelines will be even more important in games that have yet to be released.

The number of pipes will not matter. What matters is the over all fill rate and PS power of the card as a whole. Things like clock speed, memory bandwidth and pipelines effect those scores, but the end result is its all about what the card can do as a single unit :)