Interview with terrorist ( militant for left wingers ) [Archive]

evilchris

09-20-04, 03:19 PM

http://www.aliraqi.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=36882

Black soldiers are a particular target. 'To have Negroes occupying us is a particular humiliation,' Abu Mujahed said, echoing the profound racism prevalent in much of the Middle East. 'Sometimes we aborted a mission because there were no Negroes.'

Nice people...

nVidi0t

09-20-04, 05:23 PM

Real nice..

Ninja Prime

09-20-04, 06:08 PM

Ummm... aren't the majority of muslims black? I'm beggining to see a pattern here... Seems to me it's the arab brand of islam and arab traditions and culture that have corrupted islam.

evilchris

09-20-04, 06:13 PM

Ummm... aren't the majority of muslims black? I'm beggining to see a pattern here... Seems to me it's the arab brand of islam and arab traditions and culture that have corrupted islam.

Well, the Arabs actually practice it as mohammed did. mohammed was a viscious rapist and murderer. Arabs follow the qur'an to the "t", believe it or not. Everything you see terrorists do, everything the taliban did, are all perfect behaviors in the qur'an. islam is a religion of death, torture, and destruction. All it takes is a read. Religion of peace my ass....

DiscipleDOC

09-20-04, 06:18 PM

Ummm... aren't the majority of muslims black? I'm beggining to see a pattern here... Seems to me it's the arab brand of islam and arab traditions and culture that have corrupted islam.

No--on all statements. Muslims are not considered what we Americans would call 'black'. Are you truly 'white'? No, you're not.

As for culture corrupting islam? Islam is bsed in violence. Their goal is to wipe out anyone that will not convert to their beliefs.

nVidi0t

09-20-04, 06:38 PM

No--on all statements. Muslims are not considered what we Americans would call 'black'. Are you truly 'white'? No, you're not.

As for culture corrupting islam? Islam is bsed in violence. Their goal is to wipe out anyone that will not convert to their beliefs.

I think what he meant was that most Muslims are negros from Africa.

Holy Smoke

09-20-04, 07:15 PM

As for culture corrupting islam? Islam is bsed in violence. Their goal is to wipe out anyone that will not convert to their beliefs.
Opinions differ on that one. Since Islam recognizes Jesus as a prophet, most Muslims don't hate Christians any more than most Christians hate Jews.

Edit:

I also ran into a memorable quote on this page: http://www.jesus-christ.ws that goes:
“And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.” (Luke 9:49-50).

So, if a Muslim accepts Jesus as a prophet, he would surely have to agree with this?

Cheimison

09-20-04, 07:32 PM

Ummm... aren't the majority of muslims black? I'm beggining to see a pattern here... Seems to me it's the arab brand of islam and arab traditions and culture that have corrupted islam.
Islam wasn't 'corrupted', it's self-contradictory and non-sensical to begin with. The reason that these groups can interpret it ten million retarded ways is because it doesn't make sense to begin with. Magic is bull****, people. Stop trying to defend crazy ass magic beliefs. It's all bull****.

evilchris

09-20-04, 07:39 PM

Islam wasn't 'corrupted', it's self-contradictory and non-sensical to begin with. The reason that these groups can interpret it ten million retarded ways is because it doesn't make sense to begin with. Magic is bull****, people. Stop trying to defend crazy ass magic beliefs. It's all bull****.

:clap2:

Holy Smoke

09-20-04, 07:56 PM

superklye

09-20-04, 08:09 PM

Can't the same thing be said about Christianity?

And, no, I'm not being anti-Christian, nor trying to be cheeky.

What is self-contradictory and non-sensical about Christianity?

Holy Smoke

09-20-04, 08:23 PM

What is self-contradictory and non-sensical about Christianity?
ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

A quick Google search can find many more. Some people also have a problem with God condemning people to hell, yet claiming he loves them.

Rob_0126

09-20-04, 08:58 PM

Opinions differ on that one. Since Islam recognizes Jesus as a prophet, most Muslims don't hate Christians any more than most Christians hate Jews.

Edit:

I also ran into a memorable quote on this page: http://www.jesus-christ.ws that goes:
“And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.” (Luke 9:49-50).

So, if a Muslim accepts Jesus as a prophet, he would surely have to agree with this?

Except the fact that what they do goes against Jesus' teachings.(Murder, Rape, etc)

You can say you agree with an axe muderer on his views of how to garden, but that doesn't make you a killer.

Rob_0126

09-20-04, 09:06 PM

ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

A quick Google search can find many more. Some people also have a problem with God condemning people to hell, yet claiming he loves them.

Condemning:

This can be very hard for anyone to understand(yes us christians also). Some things we really just dont understand about our God, because his ways and thoughts, are higher than ours.

The Lord loves everyone, and would not want anyone to go to hell, and be in everlasting torment. But what else can he do, when people reject him? He surely can't have them hang around in heaven, because they dont want any part of him. I think someone not accepting the Lord here, dieing, and going to heaven, would have a harder time there, than in hell.

Dont get me wrong, hell is the worst punishment(separation from the creator God), but how would you feel, someone living with you, being around them, day in and day out, and them not caring or loving you at all.
Sometimes we do this to each other, and it sux.

Cheimison

09-20-04, 09:21 PM

Can't the same thing be said about Christianity?

And, no, I'm not being anti-Christian, nor trying to be cheeky.
Can be, should be.
Christianity is also magic bull****. It's more popular over here, just as retarded.

superklye

09-20-04, 09:24 PM

ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

You can make anything look contradictory when you take it out of context.

A quick Google search can find many more. Some people also have a problem with God condemning people to hell, yet claiming he loves them.

God doesn't ask for much. He asked that we worship Him and believe that His son Jesus died for our sins. Believing that: the kingdom of Heaven is ours, but if you refuse that, then Hell is all that awaits. God still loves everyone, but the rules are there. Your parents (I'm assuming) loved you, yet still punished you for not doing as they asked, right? So what's the difference here? It's just on a much grander scale and instead of being grounded from the phone for 2 weeks, you're sent to eternal pain and suffering for thinking you know better than the one that created you and everything else in the universe.

netviper13

09-20-04, 10:21 PM

You can make anything look contradictory when you take it out of context.

Uhh, have you read the Old Testament lately? Especially Joshua, the entire book is devoted to the wholesale slaughter and destruction of various groups of people. There is no denying that Christianity has its roots in violence, but the argument made then is that Jesus came along and gave a message of peace, whereas Muhammed continued to advocate violence.

Drumphil

09-20-04, 10:28 PM

um Steeda, I think you have the something mixed up in your understanding of the term "militant"

Terrorists are militants, but not all militants are terrorists.. got that

superklye

09-20-04, 10:39 PM

Uhh, have you read the Old Testament lately? Especially Joshua, the entire book is devoted to the wholesale slaughter and destruction of various groups of people. There is no denying that Christianity has its roots in violence, but the argument made then is that Jesus came along and gave a message of peace, whereas Muhammed continued to advocate violence.

Dude, the Old Testament says a lot of things and all of those things can be made to say anything when you take them out of context.

The Old Testament was the pact between God and the people and through that, the people had to sacrifice and fight other nations to appease God. The New Testament, Jesus, took that away. By having His only son die, God wiped clean all the sins of man and did away with the requirements of the Old Testament. God's end of the bargain is to allow us into Heaven with life eternal provided we believe in Him and that Jesus died for us. That's it. That's the testament/covenant/pact/promise/whatever you want to call it.

You can't base your opinion on what the followers of God used to be. If YOU had read the Old Testament lately, you would know that the people of the OT aren't Christians, they're Jews. You can't have Christianity without Christ. Christianity was not founded on violence, other than Jesus dying for us, Judaism was.

Ninja Prime

09-20-04, 10:43 PM

No--on all statements. Muslims are not considered what we Americans would call 'black'. Are you truly 'white'? No, you're not.

I believe the majority are. The majority of muslims are africans and islanders from the philipines and malaysia, at least, as I recall. Dark skinned peoples by any estimation. Unless this arab terrorist classifies "negros" as people that only come from africa, even then they still make up a large portion, if not the majority, of the muslim religion. Again, this is just what I recall.

As for culture corrupting islam? Islam is bsed in violence. Their goal is to wipe out anyone that will not convert to their beliefs.

While that is pretty much true, I know good, honest, kind, gentle, nearly pasifist muslims. I know christianity had it's darker sides and points that if you focused on them they could be nearly as bad as islam. I personally think that there could still be a good core somewhere in the religion, that if they choose to focus on, many of these problems will go away.

However, at this point, it's not looking good for that. It might not happen, and islam will truly become the hated religion of death that it almost is now.

netviper13

09-20-04, 10:45 PM

Dude, the Old Testament says a lot of things and all of those things can be made to say anything when you take them out of context.

The Old Testament was the pact between God and the people and through that, the people had to sacrifice and fight other nations to appease God. The New Testament, Jesus, took that away. By having His only son die, God wiped clean all the sins of man and did away with the requirements of the Old Testament. God's end of the bargain is to allow us into Heaven with life eternal provided we believe in Him and that Jesus died for us. That's it. That's the testament/covenant/pact/promise/whatever you want to call it.

Call me crazy, but aren't people today upset about the killing of innocent people, especially children? Most of the early books in the Old Testament talk of nasty violence, even to women and children. You cannot deny there was a lot of violence going on.

You can't base your opinion on what the followers of God used to be. If YOU had read the Old Testament lately, you would know that the people of the OT aren't Christians, they're Jews. You can't have Christianity without Christ. Christianity was not founded on violence, other than Jesus dying for us, Judaism was.

I never contended the people of the OT were Christians. Nor did I say I am judging people based on their past actions, my last sentence would actually indicate quite the opposite.

superklye

09-20-04, 10:58 PM

Call me crazy, but aren't people today upset about the killing of innocent people, especially children? Most of the early books in the Old Testament talk of nasty violence, even to women and children. You cannot deny there was a lot of violence going on.

I never contended the people of the OT were Christians. Nor did I say I am judging people based on their past actions, my last sentence would actually indicate quite the opposite.

You said "There is no denying that Christianity has its roots in violence" and it doesn't. You're implying by that sentence that the people of the OT are Christians and they are not. They are Jews. Christians have their roots in Christ who was about as far from violent as one can be.

netviper13

09-20-04, 11:38 PM

Without Judaism Christianity would not exist. Therefore Judaism is the root of Christianity.

evilchris

09-20-04, 11:40 PM

um Steeda, I think you have the something mixed up in your understanding of the term "militant"

Terrorists are militants, but not all militants are terrorists.. got that

Actually I've got nothing mixed up. The left *refuses* to call people who saw people's heads off terrorists. They're just "militants". The left *refuses* to call people who blow up schoolchildren terrorists, they're just "militants". Got that?