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Arioch
09-23-04, 12:38 PM
Well I went ahead and prepaid for my copy of the World of Warcraft Collector's Edition at EBgames today. I also added the strategy guide mainly for the maps even though I know it will start to get outdated as the game moves along. I got a discount on the guide but even then it still came out to $103.90 after tax for everything.

Now I just wish the game would hurry up and come out. Has anyone else already at least prepaid for the game yet?

Here is what comes in the Collector's Edition:

The full game on both CD-ROM and DVD-ROM
One-month subscription to World of Warcraft
The Art of World of Warcraft, 200+ page hardcover art book
World of Warcraft Behind-the-Scenes DVD
Exclusive in-game pet
Official soundtrack
Cloth map charting the continents of Kalimdor, Azeroth, Khaz Modan, and Lordaeron
Signed Collector's Edition game manual
10-Day Free Guest Pass - invite one of your friends to join the epic quest

Mr. Hunt
09-23-04, 01:05 PM
It comes with both the DVD and CD versions? Why would they do something so pointless? :\

Arioch
09-23-04, 01:24 PM
It comes with both the DVD and CD versions? Why would they do something so pointless? :\

Because there are still people that do not have DVD players in their PC and want the Collector's edition and those of us that do will be able to use only one disc to install the game. That's actually a smart decision on their end if you ask me.

Mr. Hunt
09-23-04, 01:40 PM
No. Smarter would be to release two versions... one for DVD and one for CD. I just think it is a really dumb decision to put both there unless they both come with individual CD Keys :\.

datamage
09-23-04, 02:14 PM
No. Smarter would be to release two versions... one for DVD and one for CD. I just think it is a really dumb decision to put both there unless they both come with individual CD Keys :\.

How does it hurt you to have both discs? Why would you care that they packaged both? It doesn't matter.

- D.

Ninjaman09
09-23-04, 02:14 PM
Why? You're getting two mediums for the price of one, what's the problem? Good move on their part IMO. What difference would the number of CD Keys make?

Ghostguy
09-23-04, 05:02 PM
I preordered it last week. I have a bud who is an asst. manager @gamestop. I also pre-ordered a Nintendo DS (nov 21) which is for boredom at work (I drive a bus and have lotsa time off midday).

ynnek
09-23-04, 11:00 PM
dang.. Did you pay the whole $100 already?

Usually on preorders, i just pay $5, just to make sure I have a copy reserved for me when ti comes out...

Arioch
09-24-04, 04:05 AM
dang.. Did you pay the whole $100 already?

Usually on preorders, i just pay $5, just to make sure I have a copy reserved for me when ti comes out...

I paid it all because with the cutback on hours at work right now I wanted to be sure I had it paid for already in case I was broke when it was about to ship. I also wanted to be guaranteed that I got this thing since I remembers ome people waited too long to act on buying the UT2K4 DVD edition and missed out on it.

nVidi0t
09-24-04, 02:23 PM
w00t!! Ordering mine now.

nVidi0t
09-24-04, 02:30 PM
Hmm, I wonder how long these will be in stock. I dont have the $80 to spare ATM. I just dont want these fuggers to tun out!!

ynnek
09-24-04, 04:19 PM
If you put down $5, you should be guaranteed to get a copy... at least thats what game stores SHOULD be doing.

I'm not a believer of putting more than $5 down on a preorder.... I can understand putting down a small amount to make sure your serious about buying a game (store doesn't want 1000 people signing up for a game, and get 1000 copies in, but only to find out 20 people were actually serious in buying it) But, I can manage to hold my money myself, thank you....

lIqUID
09-24-04, 10:31 PM
$103 for a game??!!? please tell me this isnt US! Oh I got in Phase 3 of WoW beta, and think I made a world record sell of it on Ebay yesterday. $150 in 5 minutes for that crappy game LOL.

Ill wait for GuildWars :D

superklye
09-25-04, 02:51 AM
$100? That's ridiculous. I thought HL2:CE was expensive...

Arioch
09-25-04, 05:56 AM
Ok let me break this down since people are posting that $100 is too much for a game.

Collector's Edition - $79.99 (No one is putting a gun to anyone's head to get this version but I want the extra goodies)
Standard Game - $49.99

Strategy Guide - $19.99 (This is an optional item and I am mainly getting it for the maps)

Tax - 8.25% in Texas

My total cost breakdown:
Collector's Edition $79.99
Strategy Guide $15.99 (Get 20% off when buying the game and guide together)
Tax $7.92

Total: $103.90

Price in Texas for just the standard game after taxes: $54.11 (Same as most other games) The price for the Collector's Edition is $86.59 - that is roughly $27 more than I paid for Doom 3 and I guarantee I will get more time out of this game in the first free month of game time than I ever did with Doom 3.


That ends today's lesson in Economics101. The Collector's Edition of this game costs the same as the one for Half-Life 2 by the way.

Have A Nice Day!

:)

ynnek
09-25-04, 03:51 PM
You all notice this $55 charge for a new game trend thats starting now? I'm not thrilled at all with that extra $5 they are trying to tack on now..

And for WoW, don't you have to pay a monthly fee on top of it all? Geeez! talk about milking the cow!

Arioch
09-25-04, 04:11 PM
You all notice this $55 charge for a new game trend thats starting now? I'm not thrilled at all with that extra $5 they are trying to tack on now..

And for WoW, don't you have to pay a monthly fee on top of it all? Geeez! talk about milking the cow!

It's a persistent MMORPG so it has a monthly fee to maintain the core staff of programmers, designers, game masters, etc. If you have never played a MMORPG then this doesn't make any sense probably.

ynnek
09-25-04, 07:35 PM
Oh don't get me wrong, I understand there's cost of maintaining and running a healthy MMORPG.. Still, they should rake in good $$$ with this game..

One of my coworkers that was in the beta said, the class/characters/etc felt too evenly balanced.. like there weren't enough weak and strong points between them..

Another coworker told me that he loved how when you goto quests, it kinda branches off in your own little world.. so you don't have 50 people trying to complete the same quest, then wait for the same item, only to have someone come in and statch it away..

Interestly, another coworker said he didn't like that aspect.. he loved the chaotic openness of MMORPG's..

Me personally, I used to mud and the sorts a while back.. I decided I will stay away from MMORPG's cause they would suck too much time away from me.. :)

It's a persistent MMORPG so it has a monthly fee to maintain the core staff of programmers, designers, game masters, etc. If you have never played a MMORPG then this doesn't make any sense probably.

Arioch
09-25-04, 07:42 PM
Well there are plenty of MMORPG games out there now or on the way for people that are looking for one and I am sure one of them will appeal to them. Many of these type of games are a love it or hate it proposition.

I also do not want to spend every waking moment playingf these type of games as I fell into that trap before with UO and DAOC. This game is set up to be a bit more friendly to the casual gamer than most games I have seen. For instance, you get a 200% experience bonus for an amount of time that increases the longer you have "rested", which is being logged out of the game. Also the leveling is quicker than other games from what I have experienced and reported by beta testers.

superklye
09-25-04, 08:27 PM
Ok let me break this down since people are posting that $100 is too much for a game.

Collector's Edition - $79.99 (No one is putting a gun to anyone's head to get this version but I want the extra goodies)
Standard Game - $49.99

Strategy Guide - $19.99 (This is an optional item and I am mainly getting it for the maps)

Tax - 8.25% in Texas

My total cost breakdown:
Collector's Edition $79.99
Strategy Guide $15.99 (Get 20% off when buying the game and guide together)
Tax $7.92

Total: $103.90

Price in Texas for just the standard game after taxes: $54.11 (Same as most other games) The price for the Collector's Edition is $86.59 - that is roughly $27 more than I paid for Doom 3 and I guarantee I will get more time out of this game in the first free month of game time than I ever did with Doom 3.


That ends today's lesson in Economics101. The Collector's Edition of this game costs the same as the one for Half-Life 2 by the way.

Have A Nice Day!

:)

That's all well and good, but $80 is still a ****ing retarded amount to pay for a game, especially when you have to pay a monthly fee on top of it. But hey, it's your time and your money...

datamage
09-26-04, 12:42 AM
That's all well and good, but $80 is still a ****ing retarded amount to pay for a game, especially when you have to pay a monthly fee on top of it. But hey, it's your time and your money...

Did you not read his post?

You can buy the regular version for normal price. The folks who want the DVD version, a nice art book, and soundtrack, etc., will pay the extra money. There is no such thing as a retarded amount to pay for something. A ton of people would think that paying $400 for a video card (like the one you own) is retarded. You don't care, right? Exactly. We pay for what we want, so if paying $100 for a collector's edition of a game is something Arioch wants to do, so be it. Some of you need to relax.

The bottomline is, what may not be worth it to you, might be worth it for someone else. Who is anyone to gauge what amount of money someone should spend. Ok, enough rambling.

- D.

ynnek
09-26-04, 03:12 AM
yea... i just spent $150 for a the Logitech DFP wheel.. lol.. what have I done..... but its sooo much better than the crappy wheel i was using before...

vampireuk
09-26-04, 04:32 AM
Ill wait for GuildWars :D

That was the most boring game demo I have played in my entire life, I was looking forward to that game until that was released.

superklye
09-26-04, 11:08 AM
Did you not read his post?

You can buy the regular version for normal price. The folks who want the DVD version, a nice art book, and soundtrack, etc., will pay the extra money. There is no such thing as a retarded amount to pay for something. A ton of people would think that paying $400 for a video card (like the one you own) is retarded. You don't care, right? Exactly. We pay for what we want, so if paying $100 for a collector's edition of a game is something Arioch wants to do, so be it. Some of you need to relax.

The bottomline is, what may not be worth it to you, might be worth it for someone else. Who is anyone to gauge what amount of money someone should spend. Ok, enough rambling.

- D.

Hey, get the sand out of your vagina, okay? Here in America, we have this wonderful thing called "Free speech" and what that means is I can say what I want and have an opinion that is different than yours. My opinion is that $100 for a GAME is retarded. My opinion is that there is NO game worth $100, especially when you have to pay monthly fees on top of it. My opinion is that I would never, ever pay such a retarded amount for a game, but if someone else wants to, go right ahead.

The bottom line is, it isn't worth it to me and I can guage the amount of money people spend on anything. I can say and opine on whatever I want. Who are you to tell me I can't? Joseph Stalin?

EDIT: Hardware cannot be compared to software. This graphics card does more than one thing, which is what a game does. Can you use that game to hook another monitor up to your computer? Will that game allow you to play the latest games and use graphically intense programs? No. It does one thing, it has one purpose: it uses the video card that is NECESSARY for a computer.

spirited1
09-26-04, 02:01 PM
I don't undertand this. There's a collectors edition and a regular edition. The collectors edition includes bonus features you may or may not be tempted by. Typically, the collectors edition will be bought by the die hard fans, though this is not exclusive. Everyone with me so far? Great!

The LOTR series came in the form of two optional dvd releases. The standard dvd with a few extra's, and the extended dvd with a boat load of more goodies. Normal was cheaper, extended was more expensive but had bonus stuff. ARE WE SEEING A PATTERN HERE? By golly, I think we are!

The extended dvd's of the LOTR series completely OWNED the normal ones. I'm so glad I got mine, because in my honest opinion, they rock. Nobody forced me into getting the extended - I would have been happy with the regular ones. But I'm a fan of LOTR and as such, I will go that extra mile, pay that extra amount to recieve features I'm eager to see.

This is a very rudimentary concept to grasp.

Now, I won't belittle someone for liking The Darkness. Not my personal preference but it's a free country. Be proud of who you are and what you like. BUT DON'T SLAM SOMEONE FOR THEIR CHOICES. Yes, we enjoy the freedom to speak as we wish. But with that freedom comes responsibility, and an awareness of people's rights to do with their money as they see fit. They're the ones that earned it, not me.

If you wish to put forward your views on the price as being unacceptable to you, you can do so. But do it without the preachy approach, and less use of the words "retarded" and you won't tick people off.