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Uttar
11-07-02, 02:38 PM
Hello everyone,

Let me begin by saying that i do NOT work for nVidia. Sometimes, i quote things and other people think i work for nVidia. Everything i quote is PUBLICLY released information. I never quote anything that hasn't been made publicly available before.

Now, let's try to figure out a few things again, shall we? :)

My best guess for what happens between 0:08 and 0:11 and at 1:42 is that this is the blood of a nVidia employee trying to leak a NV30... But then again, this sounds absolutely horrible and highly unlikely. How the heck would nVidia keep morale high if penalities were so harsh? Or would the stock option program exist to try to make the employees forget that "accident"? j/k :)
So, what's your best guess?

First of all, between 0-16 and 0:19,you'll cerrtainly notice that there are THREE flags:
The American flag, the nVidia flag & some type of very hard to identify flag. However, after doing some research, i found that's a californian flag ( http://www.enchantedlearning.com/usa/flags/california/californiaflag.shtml )

During all of the video, there seems to be odd things lying on the table ( for example, at 0:20 )... But then again, i'm no expert about that type of briefing. Maybe it's common material. But... what is it? Anyone got an idea? I see something which kinda looks like a phone or a terminal, but what about the other things? Again, likely to be normal, but checking everything is essantial :)

Also, before the *bleep*, you ALWAYS hear "n". So it's "n*bleep*"
And as ewb said before... It seems to end with the "ee" sound
While i'm not 100% sure this isn't just part of the *bleep*, in one or two cases the volume is clearly different between the "n" & "ee" and "*bleep*" which is between both.

IMO, this is likely just "NV30". There kinda seems to be a "v" after the "n", but i'm not sure. Maybe those employees doesn't even know what NV30's true name is. Maybe they're only actors ( no idea, maybe they are true nVidia employee too. I'm speculating here ) - if that's the case, it's certainly NV30. Also, NV30 does end by "ee" ( thirty )


At 1:04, the employee says:
"Hmm, I'm actually a returning employee. I was here during *bleep* . So, hmm, are the rules going to be the same?"
Now, the big question is WHAT does *bleep* stands for here, it's obivously not the same things as the other bleeps.

One possibility is that this is a trade show name. For example, it could be "E3".
It could also be an old nVidia product: the employee quitted while they were designing the GeForce or something, then he comes back today.

Insignifiant details: motion blur is used a little. Light flashes do not seem to have any logic to appear at specific times. Maybe by calculating intervals between light flashes, we'd get something. Going to try that ASAP.

Also, on the same board as my name appears for about 1 frame ( 2 maybe? ) , the fourth point is "Intro to PORs"
Here are the four possible significations for POR from Anocronym Database:
1) Plan Of Record (Intel-speak)
2) Point Of Receive
3) Price On Request
4) Power-On Request

Beside 2), every signification seem possible. However, considering how this is a high-tech company & it's "PORs" ( plural ) , "Plan of Record" makes sense. Remember, nVidia tries to educate employees on the way they work. So it's normal they explain them what they'll have to do.
However, if we ignore the fact there's a "s", Power-On Request would be a nice description for the NV30. Or it could have something to do with empowering employees.
"Empowerement sure made them quiet"
"Hmm, what would cost a lot but nobody would want?"
( paraphrase of a wonderful Dilbert comic on empowerement )

Now, as many people already reported, nVidia leaves me a message at 01:37 :) There are two obvious, contradictory explanations:
1. They found my attempts funny ( and pitiful? ), and wondered if I could catch that. And, it's quite funny, i didn't catch it - ewb did.
2. The whole video is to explain that nobody will find any hint in the videos because none exist. But that sounds bad :(
3. nVidia is seriously thinking about killing me because I said nVidia employees are perverts after seeing all the females secretely in the video. They want to discuss their, err, bad habits with new employees so that they aren't surprised. Not insulted, right, nV? Wouldn't want you to take this seriously :)
Proof of 3: http://money.cnn.com/services/tickerheadlines/prn/sfw045a.P1.11062002171842.07953.htm ( j/k, this proofs NOTHING, but i kinda wonder why KILL is repeated so much and why that subject is used )

However, how come ewb never posted before that? His registration date is 11-07-2002. Either i'm becoming paranoid, or nVidia got spies on these boards!
Multiple never-posted-before users are showing up those days and kinda insinuate they know something... Is the nVidia club not so secure? :P
Or is nVidia trying to increase the hype this way?

BTW, any of you spies can give me NV30's release day in Europe? I'd like to know when i'll be able to buy the product nVidia put the most patents in. Does that mean it's nothing but a empty box with all NV30-related patents on quality paper? j/k

One little thing i'd like to note is that there is light specifically on number 6 & 5 - If we consider the light on my message, we can guess that this HAS been written on the board and not added with PSP afterwards ( but then again, nVidia rules at creating/modifying images - it's they job! :) )
Or maybe it means that light flashes are a hint... I'll have to check some more.

Now, i don't think we found too much today. nVidia's goal with this video mostly was showing how secret NV30 information really is ( -> denying rumors? ) , so this isn't a big surprise to everyone.

Anyway, anyone discovered something i didn't find? If i find something more upon further investigation, i will reply to this thread, but it's unlikely i do...


Uttar

FastM
11-07-02, 03:48 PM
Their is a Chime sound when the message to you is shown, so its obvious they wanted people to see it.

As for nVidia employees browsing these boards (and possibly posting)? I wouldn't doubt that for a second.

I just noticed the guy who walks in with the sunglasses on is named Tyler. Their is already obvious reference to FightClub with the soap bar and the rules hes laid out, but thats just more of it.

Uttar
11-07-02, 04:09 PM
Hmm, good catch about the sunglass guy being named Tyler.

BTW, did a lame mistake in my understanding of what the returning employee meant to say.
At 1:04, the employee says:
"Hmm, I'm actually a returning employee. I was here during *bleep* . So, hmm, are the rules going to be the same?"
Now, the big question is WHAT does *bleep* stands for here, it's obivously not the same things as the other bleeps.


Actually, what that meant to say is:
"Hmm, I'm actually a returning employee. I was here during ( during = for, or maybe you got to add 'conception' after NV10 )NV10 ( or maybe another nVidia card ). So, hmm, are the rules going to be the same? ( for the NV30 ) "
What's in () is not said by the employee, but obvious if you think about it and when Tyler says after that.


Also, at the same time as "Message for Uttar" appears, the employee says: "Aren't rule 1 and 2 the same?"

I guess this got nothing to do with what i said in the other guessing thread before since it's likely a last-minute addition. But if it is...
Here are conclusions 1 & 2 i made:
1. nVidia employees are perverts
2. nVidia employees like T-Shirts with odd logos which seem to represent trees but nearly certainly do not.

Does that mean that logo was censored and that explains why it isn't very visible? :) j/k, but still, that would certainly explain that you had a flash and thus couldn't see it when it was near you.


Uttar

MuFu
11-07-02, 05:50 PM
Do you have a webcam? Upload a small video of yourself pratting about in womens' clothes and see if they splice it into the next clip. :D

Keep this up man... it makes entertaining reading. For nVidia employees especially, I am sure... ;)

MuFu.

ewb
11-07-02, 05:56 PM
hehe, no im not a spy, i just noticed the flash of something and needed to know what it was immediately. and when coming to these boards and saw your name here i had to show you.
i agree that they may not be saying the real name, and it could be very likely they are just saying nv30.

Uttar
11-09-02, 07:43 AM
Okay, so i took the time of all the light flashes:
0:36
0:37
0:40
0:42
0:46 & 0:47 ( it's a longer one )

Here are the times of the *bleep*s ( they are fairly long, so they're always on 2 seconds )
0:52/0:53
0:56/0:57
1:00/1:01
1:07/1:08
1:13/1:14

And my message is shown at 1:36

Now, from that, i've found a few possible NV30 names:
"dacbe"
"facbe"
"fgnpt"
"tpngfebcad"

Disclaimer: I refuse to do ANY crow eating if those are not the final names. No technical support will be given if introducing those names to increase your NV30 performance crashes your PC.

Originally posted by MuFu
Do you have a webcam? Upload a small video of yourself pratting about in womens' clothes and see if they splice it into the next clip. :D

Keep this up man... it makes entertaining reading. For nVidia employees especially, I am sure... ;)

MuFu.

LOL. Nah, they already previewed to put a real NV30 in it. But with a bikini. And no, that doesn't mean it's a multichip solution.
And to everyone thinking I'm serious: NO, they aren't going to do that.


Uttar

Mod
11-09-02, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by Uttar

"dacbe"
"facbe"
"fgnpt"
"tpngfebcad"

Disclaimer: I refuse to do ANY crow eating if those are not the final names. No technical support will be given if introducing those names to increase your NV30 performance crashes your PC.



Didn't get 2 things :

1.How did you came up with those names ? I don't think someone can even prononce them ... :confused: I think you should check more the mouth movements ... :)

2.I don't get the meaning of the statement "introducing those names to increase your NV30 performance crashes your PC." It's confusing for me ! :confused:

Philibob
11-09-02, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by Mod
2.I don't get the meaning of the statement "introducing those names to increase your NV30 performance crashes your PC." It's confusing for me ! :confused:
:confused: same here
Thought it was just me though

Uttar
11-09-02, 08:24 AM
LOL
That latest statement is precisely because it can't be pronounced and doesn't make any sense. It was a joke...

As to how i got those names... Let me take an example:

dacbe is the following:

The sunglass guy is first seen at 0:32. So, 36-32 = 4
4 = d
37-36 = a
40-37 = c
42-40 = b
47-42 = e

-> dacbe

What I meant by that is that there is NO logical connections between those times. They're just plain random.


Uttar

Philibob
11-09-02, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by Uttar
That latest statement is precisely because it can't be pronounced and doesn't make any sense. It was a joke...
Oh, right :o

tieros
11-09-02, 11:43 AM
All of the videos so far have had random flashing lights in them.

Maybe it's a hint that they're going to call it LightFX or GammaFX :D

Uttar
11-09-02, 01:17 PM
Yeah, I know every video had light flashes, but I was wondering if those are special because there's a light on the "message" of "message for uttar" which makes it harder to read.

Just wondered if they wanted to explain something with light flashes in this specific video because of that.


Uttar

tieros
11-09-02, 01:48 PM
Are the light pulses of different length?

Maybe it's Morse Code :D

Nutty
11-09-02, 01:51 PM
whens comdex start?

tieros
11-09-02, 01:57 PM
The 18th.

Seems like a year away :)

Mod
11-09-02, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by tieros
Maybe it's a hint that they're going to call it LightFX or GammaFX :D

Maybe its 3DFX :D

Uttar
11-09-02, 02:33 PM
As i said, they're all of the same length except the last one.
I really guess there's nothing to see there.

I'm really becoming impatient for Comdex. I've been thinking a little about David Kirk's quote saying there'll be nearly no difference in performance from aliased to antialiased with the NV30.

I really thinked it was marketing babble a few months ago. But I've rencently been rethinking about it, and I think I might have an idea about how they're hoping to achieve that.

I'm NOT under any NDA. I'm just speculating. But I just don't think it would be a good idea to say this now - the chances it's in the NV30 are of about 0.1%
It sounds a LOT more like a NV50 technology. But if it's in the NV30, ATI performance crown won't last very long.

Basically, it would have to do with the borders of a triangle, a little like FAA from Matrox, but its power couldn't be measured wth samples but with %.

And if I'm right, the "still MSAA" rumors aren't entirely false; it's still a LOT like MSAA in a lot of ways.


Uttar

EDIT: Rethinked about the whole idea, and it sure sounds like it wouldn't work at all. I'll think a little more just to be sure it's impossible, but I'd suggest you simply ignore this post.µ

EDIT 2: Hmm, maybe it would work. But it sounds a lot more like a NV40 technology, I doubt the NV30 will have it.