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NVIDIA_NV48.DEV_0210.1 = "NVIDIA NV48"
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Yes folks, NV48 is supported in the latest leaked drivers 66.70. Seems we'll see them announced some time in the future? :drooling:
Oh boy oh boy oh boy... Can you say "GT price drop"??
jbirney
09-28-04, 12:13 PM
Oh boy oh boy oh boy... Can you say "GT price drop"??
If I were NV I would not unless they can make more money on its replacement. Right now supplies of the GT are tight and DP said that they are selling every GT card they make...so keep doing that till the market dies down a bit...
superklye
09-28-04, 02:03 PM
So the NV48 will be a replacement for the current 6800s? More high-end stuff rather than the NV43 which is for the 6600s?
What exactly is NV48, NV50 etc?
nv48? => Maybe a 110 nm Nv40 with minors changes and higer clock speed.
nv50? => ps 4.0?
why not? :angel2:
What are they though? Driver versions? GPU versions?
superklye
09-28-04, 03:31 PM
What are they though? Driver versions? GPU versions?
NV50 won't be out until 2006...it's the next line, aka GeForce 7
NV50 won't be out until 2006...it's the next line, aka GeForce 7
maybe not
here (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18729)
CaptNKILL
09-28-04, 08:17 PM
What are they though? Driver versions? GPU versions?
Its a code name for a new family of chips. For example, the Geforce FX 5800 and 5800 Ultra are NV30s. 5900s are NV35s. 6800s are NV40s, 6600s are NV43s (i think).
superklye
09-28-04, 11:11 PM
maybe not
here (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18729)
umm...what exactly did that have to do with the NV50? That was all about the R500.
well my point being ... when was the last time any of these guys release a chip and the other didnt follow.
its not really a before an after, nV is definitly releasing, ATi still has issues with thier x800xt pe, so can ATi come out with another card clocked higher is the question, if yeilds of the xt pe are good now or shortly, they will still have issues clocking them higher. Its obvious the clocks they are trying for is whats effecting thier yeild issues.
i dont think its a question of higher yield ... could ati pull off releasing another generation of chip so close to the release of there last chip... i dont think anyone could pull it off. also i think xb2 isnt a 5x0 chip i think its more like a 4x0 chip
its a r500, but its built off the r520 which is another version of the r 300 :)
But thats not what ATi will release now. The r480 is what they might go ahead with which is a higher clocked r420
nv48? => Maybe a 110 nm Nv40 with minors changes and higer clock speed.
nv50? => ps 4.0?
why not? :angel2:
if the X700xt vs 6600gt in 100nm process is an indication of what will happen with the next refresh. it seems that this times tables will be the other way.. when it comes to Core/memory speeds and NVidia will have the higher core/clocks /cooler card and ATI will need a dustbuster heatsink/fan to clock theirs not too far from Nvidia.
NV48 could be clocked 100+mhz more and still be cooler than the Nv40 with some other tweaks . ATi in the other hand will need to face a bigger challenge without SOI if they ever manage to release another highend card this year (they barely can get XT's to be released ). but things will be even more interesting with the R520. since they will need to add lots more transistor in their hardware much more than Nvidia need ,to keep their hardware competitive not only in performance but also in features.Nvidia can focus only in performance this time and forget about technology since they are already there.the Inquirer last tibits about the R500 (16x2) is already dissapointing for something that will be released in 2005 and that should be able to compete with playstation3 .
superklye
09-29-04, 02:00 AM
well my point being ... when was the last time any of these guys release a chip and the other didnt follow.
This isn't a chip for mass-market consumption. The only place it'll be used is in the Xbox2.
here (http://www.xbox365.com/news/news.cgi/article/EpZVuuZuklIaSSrqvZ7428) This isn't a chip for mass-market consumption as of january 2004 the xbox has sold 3.7 million consols .... so if thats not mass market i dont know what is
AthlonXP1800
09-29-04, 04:48 AM
if the X700xt vs 6600gt in 100nm process is an indication of what will happen with the next refresh. it seems that this times tables will be the other way.. when it comes to Core/memory speeds and NVidia will have the higher core/clocks /cooler card and ATI will need a dustbuster heatsink/fan to clock theirs not too far from Nvidia.
ATI already made 2 very bad mistakes with 0.11nm and 0.13nm LowK process, at first ATI didnt launched the flagship X800 XT PE but launched X800 Pro, they still cant make enough X800 XT PE, it unlikely to be enough next month while NV40 refresh is waiting to launch. It no surprise ATI never learnt Nvidia NV30 mistake, now they will repeat the same mistake with X700 XT (http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20040928110133.html), they cannot make enough of it so they will sell X700 Pro instead. It look like X700 XT will be in enough supply around February 2005, almost 6 months on when NV43 refresh will be ready and waiting to launch.
ATI should used dustbuster on X800 XT PE and X700 XT and sell now instead of waste months to make new revisions attempt to improve yields and cooling. ATI mistakes are much worse than Nvidia's 1 mistake with NV30 first time on 0.13nm process.
ricercar
09-29-04, 06:02 AM
well my point being ... when was the last time any of these guys release a chip and the other didnt follow.
August 2002 ATI released R300 and NVIDIA failed to follow with NV30 until March 2003. Oh, I'm sorry. Were you being rhetorical? :rolleyes:
superklye
09-29-04, 03:07 PM
here (http://www.xbox365.com/news/news.cgi/article/EpZVuuZuklIaSSrqvZ7428) as of january 2004 the xbox has sold 3.7 million consols .... so if thats not mass market i dont know what is
No, it's not. Go to the store and buy a separate R500 core video card and put it in your machine. YOU CAN'T.
It's made specifically for Xbox and nothing else. How can it be for mass-market consumption when it's only available for Microsoft?
No, it's not. Go to the store and buy a separate R500 core video card and put it in your machine. YOU CAN'T.
It's made specifically for Xbox and nothing else. How can it be for mass-market consumption when it's only available for Microsoft?
the xbox chip was just a tweeked nv2x chip. there is not much of a diffrence between the xbox chips and the other nv2x chips
superklye
09-29-04, 03:57 PM
the xbox chip was just a tweeked nv2x chip. there is not much of a diffrence between the xbox chips and the other nv2x chips
look, what is your ****ing point? you. can't. buy. one. by. itself.
what exactly is nvidia going to say? "Why buy an Xbox with that new ATi card you can only get in there? Buy the new nVidia card so you can look at those Xbox2 games in the store and remember why you were going to buy the Xbox2 in the first place: we don't have a competing product for that ATi card BECUASE IT'S FOR THE XBOX2 ONLY!"
look man relax and take a chill dude. im ending this before you blow your top .. sorry to everyone else for his language.
Exactly. Everyone take a deep breath or something. I'd like this thread to possibly live until the actual announcement of nv48... so the crap stops here.
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