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Daneel Olivaw
10-13-04, 10:54 AM
I'd heard that Intel was likely to start shipp dual cores next year, in the form of a Dual Dothan Core for the 775pin socket.

Correct me if I'm wrong, please add all known info, and speculate on performance.

Please move to hardware rumor mill... :retard:
MUYA
10-13-04, 11:11 AM
I think so, 2005 will the year CPUs get all dually and multi-core'y. erm yes thread moved too,
Bill The Cat
10-13-04, 11:52 AM
I didn't think they were going to transition to a Dothanesque core until the second or third dual-core generation. I could be wrong, though.
MUYA
10-13-04, 12:03 PM
well an iNtel dual core cpu will debut 2005 at any rate ;)
Daneel Olivaw
10-14-04, 12:38 AM
Oh please tell me they're not thinking of selling dually Pressies... Dual Prescotts would burn a hole in my Antec case...
duckofdeath
10-20-04, 02:39 PM
the dual core processor by intel is codenamed smithfield and is a net burst arcitecture cpu! no pentium m for desktop so far....
Bill The Cat
10-20-04, 05:54 PM
the dual core processor by intel is codenamed smithfield and is a net burst arcitecture cpu! no pentium m for desktop so far....

Have a link? I recall the Smithfield core, but would like to learn more about Intel's dual core strategy.
GlowStick
10-20-04, 05:57 PM
There will be no Dothan for Desktop users.

However some companys are makeing small desktop computers with laptop compnants in them, however they seem to lack an agp slot.
Bill The Cat
10-20-04, 06:45 PM
There will be no Dothan for Desktop users.

However some companys are makeing small desktop computers with laptop compnants in them, however they seem to lack an agp slot.

There will be cores based on the Dothan in the future. Not immediately, but Intel has stated they will use their Dothan/PIII technology to decrease the heat density of their Dual Cores at some point in the future.
Daneel Olivaw
10-21-04, 04:55 PM
Long live the Tualatin... To think I could run my Tualatin celeron (/w Vcore mod) at 1733MHz makes my mouth water at the thought of a dual Dothan... Though I'm pretty such their design isn't as similar as I hope.
I too would like some info on the Smithfield, Ill pump it full o' lead if it's a dual Pressy.
GlowStick
10-22-04, 08:16 PM
new anand article up

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2252


While many have speculated that Smithfield may be Banias or Dothan based, it's now clear that Smithfield is little more than two 90nm Prescott cores built on the same die.

A while ago I asked Pat Gelsinger what was in store for the future of Pentium M with regards to threading, and he responded with multi-core

It seems that the Dothan will get a mutlicore version, however it will be only for the laptops.

Intel is set on Prescotts for Desktop, Dothan for laptops. They wont budge on it aparnetly.
Bill The Cat
10-23-04, 03:16 AM
new anand article up

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2252





It seems that the Dothan will get a mutlicore version, however it will be only for the laptops.

Intel is set on Prescotts for Desktop, Dothan for laptops. They wont budge on it aparnetly.

Huh. I stand corrected. Good article.

But I disagree with Anand on:

The reduction in bandwidth will hurt performance scalability and we continue to wonder why Intel is reluctant to transition more of their CPUs to the 1066MHz FSB, especially the dual core chips that definitely need it.

Dual core chips _Won't_ need a 1066 Mhz FSB, or at best will have difficulty using them. Two cores have several problems trying to share a bus. A good example is the Xeon line. I believe they still had a 400 Mhz FSB when the P4's were at 800. They didn't step the FSB that low for the fun of it. It takes quite a bit of work to be able to get the equivalent bandwith with two cores, and I doubt Intel will be able to master that when the processors first come out.