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Graphicmaniac
10-15-04, 02:21 PM
WHY 6XXX & Xx00 cards cost a LOT more in EUROPE???

If a 6800U cost 499$ in USA then for the change it should cost around 420€ in Europe, then

why they cost 600€ ???

they are thief !!! that's why ...


200€ more than the real price .... with this money i should buy a 6800 plus mega ultra extreme edition ................

but go to hell ... :bash:

LOL

EciDemon
10-15-04, 02:23 PM
Here in sweden such hardware is rather expensive too, but that has alot to do with taxes as they are higher here then in the US.

InqWoN1776
10-15-04, 02:32 PM
How much is income tax in sweden?? and sales tax??

mickmar
10-15-04, 03:21 PM
Hi
That depends on how much money you’re salary are.

If you have between 32000$-38400$ year (translated in dollar), you have income tax between 31% to 35% and that’s depends were you live.

The sales taxes are on thing you can’t eat are 25%
And sales tax on food is 12%

mickmar

Fatman
10-15-04, 03:33 PM
That's the price you pay for your socialist programs :) J/K

It all comes down to supply and demand. In US high technologies market is rather large compared to most European nations, not because you guys don't like high tech toys, but because US population dwarfs most of EU states. Here is an idea, don't know the details so it might not work. Euro is higher than dollar, so change 450 Euros to dollars, that should net about $600-650. Ask a friend or a relative in US to buy you the card you want and send it to you.

mustrum
10-15-04, 03:46 PM
That's the price you pay for your socialist programs :) J/K

It all comes down to supply and demand. In US high technologies market is rather large compared to most European nations, not because you guys don't like high tech toys, but because US population dwarfs most of EU states. Here is an idea, don't know the details so it might not work. Euro is higher than dollar, so change 450 Euros to dollars, that should net about $600-650. Ask a friend or a relative in US to buy you the card you want and send it to you.
Hehe that wont help. The friendly postman will aks for the difference sum on your doorstep then. I know it since it happened to me.
I thought: Hey why not order crucial RAM from the US. It's dirt cheap.
Had to pay 50€ Tax to get my allready payed package.
Thiefs. ******* thiefs!

Arjan20
10-15-04, 03:48 PM
I've bought my XFX 6800GT for €429,- in the Netherlands. Sales tax is 19%. However an Ultra costs €660,-.

It's all nice having this 'One Europe' feeling, but it's not even near one Europe when comparing several things. Man I love the Netherlands.......... not.

Cota
10-15-04, 04:07 PM
Hehe that wont help. The friendly postman will aks for the difference sum on your doorstep then. I know it since it happened to me.
I thought: Hey why not order crucial RAM from the US. It's dirt cheap.
Had to pay 50€ Tax to get my allready payed package.
Thiefs. ******* thiefs!

That's what free trade agreements are for.

Thanks to NAFTA I can get video cards/mobos/memory from the US and only pay 2% import TAX.

Lemur.fi
10-15-04, 04:55 PM
Arjan20:
Didn't know that Netherlands has so low VAT. No way to get graphics cards that cheap here. :P

Cota:
No escaping VAT with any NAFTAs though.

Not that it matters, as we gladly pay the taxes in Europe anyway. Looking at the alternatives does not make lowering those too encouraging.

Cota
10-15-04, 05:19 PM
we pay VAT here but it can be deducted.

Lemur.fi
10-15-04, 06:24 PM
I would guess that you live in Canada then. ;)

Cota
10-15-04, 06:58 PM
No, but you have one more chance to guess

Lemur.fi
10-15-04, 07:00 PM
Mexico? :P

NoWayDude
10-15-04, 07:05 PM
Portugal

Never mind ppl, in the UK if a card is $300 US you can bet your mortgage that will be £300 in here.

Got to love the taxman....

LOL

EciDemon
10-15-04, 07:07 PM
Still if we do not consider taxes our prices here are still higher I think. Suxx pretty bad too.

If I lived in US I prolly get a GT for the money I bought my NU card with.

subbo
10-15-04, 07:09 PM
Over here the VAT alone is 22%, add to that the EU import tolls and whatever and you get to the high price. I paid 476€ for my MSI GT, and you have to remember that one euro buys 1.22 USD atm.

Cota
10-15-04, 07:11 PM
Mexico? :P

and we hava a winner!!!!

:rolleyes: :) :) :rolleyes: :) :) :rolleyes:

Subtestube
10-15-04, 07:14 PM
Mmmm.. things are pretty bad in New Zealand too. I paid NZ$660 for my 6800NU, which equates to roughly US$440. Now admittedly 6800NUs have dropped to NZ$600, but that's still US$400.. Oh well, I'm happy with the product, and ultimately I perfer having it to having the money, so there's no real point in whining about it.

Graphicmaniac
10-16-04, 07:49 AM
But what i would say is that until GFFX5950 and 9800xt the cards have always costed the right price.

I mean 500€ for both of them while € was on par with $

Then why now the Xx00 and 6x00 cards cost 50% more here than USA ?

Is it because of the lack of cards?

If yes how is damn possible if these cards were out in april?

Then is not true that we should be sourprised that new cards perform 100%+ more than older generation cards, lol because in the end we will have this huge jump just widely disponible for christmas that is 12 months later than older cards ....

uffff :(

Arjan20
10-16-04, 10:26 AM
Arjan20:
Didn't know that Netherlands has so low VAT. No way to get graphics cards that cheap here. :P

Cota:
No escaping VAT with any NAFTAs though.

Not that it matters, as we gladly pay the taxes in Europe anyway. Looking at the alternatives does not make lowering those too encouraging.

Haha, well we may have a low VAT, but the government has many other way's to 'steal' your money. The special VAT for cars for example:

A Volvo S60 T5 costs €50.000 in the Netherlands, while in Germany it costs €37.000. The 'normal' price without special VAT is €32.000.

subbo
10-16-04, 10:29 AM
Lol I dont think you need to tell a Finn about car taxes :) But I bet they're in the same ranges there in the old NL.

I checked on the volvo page and the recommended price for the S60 T5 is 47.600€ in .fi, and I bet they're a little cheaper to import since theyre made in sweden.

InqWoN1776
10-16-04, 11:28 AM
Hey, mickmar those taxes are killin' man. The benefits should be outrageous. But most likely you're probably paying more than the benefits are worth. I really don't know I don't live there but in Memphis,TN we bitch about 10% sales tax; In the u.s. sales tax is sales tax. I live in MS but work in Memphis and the sales tax in MS is 7.25%. Income is a different story in the u.s.also...
0-10k~10%, 10k-38k~15%, 38k-98k~25%, 98k-160k~28% ,160k-311k~33%, and 35%.. You're paying the taxes of our highest two brackets!!! Hey man the couch is empty in my apartment/dorm if you want to move here : ).

mickmar
10-16-04, 12:21 PM
Hey InqWoN1776.

Yes it really sucks, but it is not so hard to live here as it seems,
vi don’t need to pay for medical and health care, and some other thing
that you have to pay for. So, okay I cant decide what I am paying for.

Yes it sucks. :retard:

mickmar

Lemur.fi
10-16-04, 02:20 PM
There are a few things to remember when talking about high taxes. (Some trivia for your enjoyment. (popcorn) )

The following are some examples where the tax money goes to here in Finland.

- minimum wage in Finland is 926.40€ / ~$1150 per month*
- unemployed get 694.80€ / ~$870 per month minimum
- more or less free medical and health care as mentioned (medicines cost usually though some are free like Insulin for Diabetes)
- free studies as in you get money for living expences (max 650.56€ / ~$810 per month depending on your rent and such) while the schools are free

Basically this means that even an unemployed person might as well buy a 6800U if he/she wants to, even though it costs more than it does in the US. (Needs to cut down on the booze and live on a lower rent area though.)


* Not directly related to taxes but gives a basis to compare other sums to, and would be lower if the taxes were lower.

mustrum
10-16-04, 02:23 PM
There are a few things to remember when talking about high taxes. (Some trivia for your enjoyment. (popcorn) )

The following are some examples where the tax money goes to here in Finland.

- minimum wage in Finland is 926.40€ / ~$1150 per month*
- unemployed get 694.80€ / ~$870 per month minimum
- more or less free medical and health care as mentioned (medicines cost usually though some are free like Insulin for Diabetes)
- free studies as in you get money for living expences (max 650.56€ / ~$810 per month depending on your rent and such) while the schools are free

Basically this means that even an unemployed person might as well buy a 6800U if he/she wants to, even though it costs more than it does in the US. (Needs to cut down on the booze and live on a lower rent area though.)


* Not directly related to taxes but gives a basis to compare other sums to, and would be lower if the taxes were lower.

Interesting thinking. :p
I live in austria with extremely high taxes. Bought my PNY Verto 6800 GT in Germany for 387€ before shipping. 400 total. I fell better now since it looks like it was not a that bad deal at all.