View Full Version : Nvidia reacts to lack of Nforce4 Soundstorm!!
gate1975mlm
10-25-04, 09:01 AM
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19265
|JuiceZ|
10-25-04, 09:32 AM
Just read that not too long ago. NV is smart and sees the potential large market out there for SS capable product. If it's not used in an upcoming chipset, they will turn it into an add in card. They've already tested this technology. Imagine how sweet it would be to have a true viable alternative to Creative in the soundcard market.
They've already tested this technology
when did nvidia ever made a sound storm add in card ??? did i miss something here
saturnotaku
10-25-04, 02:22 PM
I'm pretty sure they made a few prototype add-in cards. I'd love to see a PCI-X Soundstorm card, and my next major system upgrade would include one if it were ever to see the light of day.
r2d2d3d4d5
10-25-04, 02:22 PM
when did nvidia ever made a sound storm add in card ??? did i miss something here
In house....? They probably make lots of cool things that we never hear about.
|JuiceZ|
10-25-04, 02:26 PM
Yea as far as I know it was only in-house testing. Nothing really availible for public distribution or reviewing.
GlowStick
10-25-04, 02:40 PM
I hope it becomes discreet!
withmyshadow
10-25-04, 02:53 PM
I clearly remember reading an article saying PCI bus is not fast enough to do real time Dolby digital encoding. My question is how fast is PCI-X compared to PCI?
CaptNKILL
10-25-04, 03:39 PM
I clearly remember reading an article saying PCI bus is not fast enough to do real time Dolby digital encoding. My question is how fast is PCI-X compared to PCI?
16x I think... :D
But its kind of disapointing that a PCI bus isnt fast enough... we wont be seeing this technology for a very long time if it has to be anything other than PCI.
r2d2d3d4d5
10-25-04, 04:06 PM
I hope it's not a PCI-? card only solution. I need my PCI-? slots for other things. I guess sound doesn't mean that much to me. I'll be sticking to onboard solutions (for now). If they make a separate card I hope they get around to making an add-in audio chipset for motherboard manufacturers.
cstring
10-25-04, 05:14 PM
Werent mainboard manufacturers working on something known as ASP
Accelerated Sound Port a few years back?
If memory serves it was like AGP but for sound.
Maybe they'll use that for the interface?
In house....? They probably make lots of cool things that we never hear about. ya they probably have tones of really cool toys in house.... damn those engineers .... damn them
CaptNKILL
10-25-04, 05:20 PM
There is an AMR slot, which is an "audio\modem riser" slot, and some sound cards can use it, but Im guessing its probably slower than PCI, not faster. If you see a really tiny slot on a motherboard its probably one of those or a CNR (i think thats it).
cstring
10-25-04, 05:28 PM
Nope, I know AMR, this was different.
Tried looking for something about ASP but no luck.
If I find it I'll slip in the link.
It was back when Ensoniq was alive and kicking creatives butt.
I'm not positive but I think Intel were woking on it.
I never kept up with it, but they must have shelved it?
cstring
10-25-04, 05:58 PM
Ack! I cant find anything on ASP, except web page code.
AMR is slower, this was specifically for sound though.
It was also when the intel cc820 sdram board came out.
Oh well maybe someone here who was around at that time could help me out.
r2d2d3d4d5
10-25-04, 06:02 PM
There is an AMR slot, which is an "audio\modem riser" slot, and some sound cards can use it, but Im guessing its probably slower than PCI, not faster. If you see a really tiny slot on a motherboard its probably one of those or a CNR (i think thats it).
AMR/CNR were supposed to lead to cheaper components. It probably has happened but the difference is simply not worth worrying about for most people. OEMs probably love them. I have a CNR card on my board but I've never even considered using it. With all the competition between the competing PCI types I'm not sure if they are worth having (I'd rather have PCI/PCI-X/PCI-E slots). Not sure which bus they use but I wouldn't be surprised if they were ultimately attached to the PCI bus. Not convinced that the PCI bus can't handle a DD Encoder though. PCI can handle IDE/RAID/HDTV/etc cards.
r2d2d3d4d5
10-25-04, 06:07 PM
Nope, I know AMR, this was different.
Tried looking for something about ASP but no luck.
If I find it I'll slip in the link.
It was back when Ensoniq was alive and kicking creatives butt.
I'm not positive but I think Intel were woking on it.
I never kept up with it, but they must have shelved it?
Intel did CNR. Could you be thinking of ACR though?
cstring
10-25-04, 06:49 PM
"Intel did CNR. Could you be thinking of ACR though?"
Possiably, its been a few years ago and after 40 the mind begins to go. lol
Yes! ACR was it , thank you!
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nutball
10-26-04, 05:51 AM
Intel did CNR. Could you be thinking of ACR though?
AFAIK Intel did *both* CNR (comms/networking) and AMR (audio/modem).
They were aimed at offloading the audio/networking/communications from cheapo 3rd party chips (eg. APUs, modems, NICs) onto very expensive Intel-manufactured CPUs. Which makes sense of course (to Intel Marketing Division).
Diamond_G
10-26-04, 06:11 AM
so how much bandwith is needed to encode 5.1 (up to true 7.1) sound?
I didn't think it would be much, the streams are still compressed you just need a fast processor (or dedicated DSP) to be able to un/compress the streams in realtime and be able to distribute the right sounds to the right locations.
nutball
10-26-04, 07:05 AM
so how much bandwith is needed to encode 5.1 (up to true 7.1) sound?
I didn't think it would be much, the streams are still compressed you just need a fast processor (or dedicated DSP) to be able to un/compress the streams in realtime and be able to distribute the right sounds to the right locations.
This is what I don't get, I can't see how a discrete PCI 5.1 encoder would require any more memory bandwidth than a PCI sound card requires to make its noises. I must be missing something.
|JuiceZ|
10-26-04, 07:44 AM
This is what I don't get, I can't see how a discrete PCI 5.1 encoder would require any more memory bandwidth than a PCI sound card requires to make its noises. I must be missing something.
Yea I'm with ya there, doesn't quite make sense to me either. Kinda curious as to why Creative hasn't jumped on this bandwagon either or even hinted to it. We all know the market is there.
Diamond_G
10-26-04, 07:47 AM
Yea I'm with ya there, doesn't quite make sense to me either. Kinda curious as to why Creative hasn't jumped on this bandwagon either or even hinted to it. We all know the market is there.
How much is the licensing fee? That is the only reason I can think of as to why it isn't more popular.
r2d2d3d4d5
10-26-04, 09:29 AM
The Inquirer (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19218) mentioned this (http://www.cmedia.com.tw/product/CMI8768.htm) solution a couple of days ago. It seems to involve a DD7.1 Encoder. Apparently Asus are using it on one of their Intel boards so I can see them using it on one of their Nforce boards, eventually, if the demand is there.
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