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Hiryu
10-28-04, 01:27 AM
Hello,

I very recently upgraded from a 9800 pro to a Gainward 6800GT (256MB). At 1600x1200, the 9800 pro gave me roughly an average of 35 fps in UT2004. I still had an average less than 60 fps (it was about 40-50 fps) at 640x480 (both from watching the fps during gameplay and from umark). I felt this was a lot lower than it should be.

With my 6800GT, umark gives me an average of 48 fps at 1600x1200 *and* at 640x480. In gameplay I get the same results.

I have a pentium 4 3.2 ghz, 1 gig of corsair xms memory, and a P4C800-E asus motherboard (i875 based).

For the 6800GT, I get this performance in Windows 2000 *and* Linux. Are there any BIOS settings that would break my performance this much? For both OS's to suffer this same abysmal performance makes me wonder if there's a BIOS setting or if something in my system is broken.

However, the motherboard and CPU are less than a year old, the memory is less than a week old. I had these results with my old memory as well.

Thanks!

Hiryu
10-28-04, 01:39 AM
Here are some nice benchmarks of the Gainward 6800GT.

The test system has the same motherboard and processor as my personal system:
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=gw6800gt&page=3

The Gainward GS gets 157 fps at 1600x1200 with 4xFSAA and 8xAF, I haven't been using EITHER and only got 48 fps at 640x480!!
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=gw6800gt&page=7



Even the 9800 pro, my old card, according to these benchmarks outperforms my 48 fps (but still outpeforms the 9800 pro on my own system). I believe I reached 48 fps also at 640x480 with the 9800 pro..

-=DVS=-
10-28-04, 01:49 AM
Hmm something not installed properly , did you try reinstalling Motherboard drivers , video ect .. Vsync off and the usuall stuff .

Hiryu
10-28-04, 01:53 AM
Yes.

But this appears to be a continuing trend with 2 entirely different operating systems and with 2 cards...

saturnotaku
10-28-04, 08:15 AM
For what it's worth, the number you're seeing in UT2004 are not that unusual. Here are my results on a P4 3.0c with a 6800 GT.

http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/bfg_geforce_6800_gt_oc/page4.shtml

The Onslaught maps are particularly brutal, but as you can see, even with a pretty powerful CPU and video card, performance for UT2004 in certain situations can be lacking.

sammy2066
10-28-04, 08:34 AM
format puter ....
install windows xp w/ sp2
install latest forceware drivers
ENJOY!!!
:D

Hiryu
10-28-04, 12:22 PM
Thanks saturnotaku .

However, I'm still only achieving 48 fps at 640x480...

I havea 425 watt supply for this system. I'm wondering if that could be effecting it.

Hiryu
10-28-04, 12:44 PM
I'm looking at benchmarks on some other sites and I seem to be getting about the same. However, there are benchmarks, such as the ones I've posted above showing much better performance. It would seem that some sights severely fudge their benchmarks.

So it would seem (though 100% sure yet) that these sights have misled me (intentionally even).

Reliant
10-28-04, 01:15 PM
Misled? No. They probably just are using a better CPU most of this generation of cards are CPU limited.

Decimator
10-28-04, 04:01 PM
Unreal Tournament is CPU limited when played at lower resolutions (even 10 x 76) though you should probably be getting a bit higher than 40 -50 fps if the benchmark below is anything to go by.

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/images/image009.gif

The tests on this page show how it is CPU limited at the lower res's.

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-05.html

You also haven't said which version of the drivers you are using.

Hiryu
10-30-04, 12:10 AM
Ignore this post, read my next post. Some how same post got posted twice.

Hiryu
10-30-04, 12:11 AM
Misled? No. They probably just are using a better CPU most of this generation of cards are CPU limited.

Nope. The benchmarks in the link I posted when I started in this thread use a test system with a pentium 4 3.2c with an Asus P4C800-E motherboard. I have that exact same cpu and exact same motherboard. I also have the same amount of ram, however, they're using samsung memory, I'm using corsair XMS (I doubt this would make much/any difference in either direction).

I'm still getting less than a 3rd of their performance. I still only get about 48 fps at 640x480. So while my performance is along the lines of benchmarks I've found at anandtech (both in Linux and Windows, using the same resolutions), I'm still wondering about my performance at 640x480. I'll be getting a new power supply soon (I was planning on getting one anyway, my current one is far too loud), so I'll see if that makes any difference.

wshadow
10-30-04, 12:46 AM
Make sure to turn Vsync off:)

john19055
10-30-04, 02:05 AM
I have'nt use win 2000 before but I would'nt think that would matter that much,but you said you upgraded from a 9800pro to a 6800GT,IMO I would do a clean install to make sure all the 9800pro drivers are out.Then install the up to date motherboard drivers and DX9c, and the new video drivers I use the 66.81 drivers myself and check your bios setup to make sure everthing is set correctly.And that Corsair XMS is some of the best memory you can buy IMO.

kahloq
10-30-04, 09:19 AM
I have the same mobo and processor in wifes pc(same mobo and slightly higher 3.4c in my pc) and ut04 runs flawlessly on both. Wife pc has 6800gt, mine has 6800ultra. Wifes pc has 1 gig pc3200 samsung. Mine has 2 gig pc3500 OCZ performance.

MUYA
10-30-04, 09:35 AM
am sorry in my lazyness I aaven't read all posts, but in general when going from one IHV powered graphics card to another the best option is too; Format the windows partitionand re-install windows, apply critical patches etc (maybe dx9c first) then install motherboard drivers, and then graphics card drivers etc.

If you cannot be bothered with the hassle of re-installing as some ppl do, goto safe mode do a uninstall of the other IHV grahics card drivers, use driver cleaner, then reboot and install your new graphics card drivers.

If you have followed those procedures right then your gaming experience should be good.
But as Sat said (i did read tha post), ONS maps take a huge bite out of performance and is totaly CPU limited, when running benches for my review, I got the same results on ONS-Dria (MikeC's demo) within1-2 fps of each other regardless of resolutiopn or AA and AF modes/settings I used.

Hiryu
10-30-04, 03:35 PM
I have the same mobo and processor in wifes pc(same mobo and slightly higher 3.4c in my pc) and ut04 runs flawlessly on both. Wife pc has 6800gt, mine has 6800ultra. Wifes pc has 1 gig pc3200 samsung. Mine has 2 gig pc3500 OCZ performance.

What kind of performance do you get?